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		<title>By: jiangjiang</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alexabaracaia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexabaracaia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Les -

I&#039;d v much like to know more about your complaint to Sky. Am researching a news story on Brainiac and History Abuse and all info gratefully received. 
You can get in touch with me at alexa.baracaia@standard.co.uk

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Les -</p>
<p>I&#8217;d v much like to know more about your complaint to Sky. Am researching a news story on Brainiac and History Abuse and all info gratefully received.<br />
You can get in touch with me at <a href="mailto:alexa.baracaia@standard.co.uk">alexa.baracaia@standard.co.uk</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: guthrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>guthrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Les-
&quot;In fact Iâ€™ve emailed them to complain about a story presented as â€œunbelievable, but TRUE!!!â€ by a re-enactor type they have on it.&quot;

What re-enactor type?  I do reenacting myself, and am always interested in finding out who not to trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Les-<br />
&#8220;In fact Iâ€™ve emailed them to complain about a story presented as â€œunbelievable, but TRUE!!!â€ by a re-enactor type they have on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>What re-enactor type?  I do reenacting myself, and am always interested in finding out who not to trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two new ones are:

http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Robin.html
http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Anon2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two new ones are:</p>
<p><a href="http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Robin.html" rel="nofollow">theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Robin.html</a><br />
<a href="http://theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Anon2.html" rel="nofollow">theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/Anon2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, Theodore Gray says:

&quot;Every time there&#039;s a news report or major blog posting of my sodium party page, I get another sodium story or two to add to my collection of guest stories (all listed on my party page).

&quot;You will be pleased to know that the two I have received in the aftermath of your column last Saturday were two of the best, and quite unusually were written in proper English with complete sentences and a minimum of misspellings.  I can only conclude that your readers are a cut above.&quot;

Theo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, Theodore Gray says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Every time there&#8217;s a news report or major blog posting of my sodium party page, I get another sodium story or two to add to my collection of guest stories (all listed on my party page).</p>
<p>&#8220;You will be pleased to know that the two I have received in the aftermath of your column last Saturday were two of the best, and quite unusually were written in proper English with complete sentences and a minimum of misspellings.  I can only conclude that your readers are a cut above.&#8221;</p>
<p>Theo</p>
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		<title>By: Big_Les</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2006/07/whos-the-daddy/comment-page-1/#comment-6695</link>
		<dc:creator>Big_Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I&#039;m seriously disappointed re Brainiac&#039;s faking. For me, it&#039;s not good enough to claim (&quot;it&#039;s TV moron, don&#039;t take it seriously) because without qualification of what&#039;s being shown, people WILL assume that what&#039;s happening is a) factually correct, and b) really happening. And why shouldn&#039;t they?

I certainly wouldn&#039;t know when they were faking; I&#039;m a Humanities Graduate. Now, their spin-off &quot;History Abuse&quot; *does* fall into my area of professional interest, and I can tell you that it&#039;s utter rubbish too. In fact I&#039;ve emailed them to complain about a story presented as &quot;unbelievable, but TRUE!!!&quot; by a re-enactor type they have on it.

Wait for it... a dog firing a cannon at approaching French cavalry at an C18th battle.. as far as I can tell, having checked both the literature and the web, the only source for this anecdote is this:

http://digital.test.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?action=view&amp;TitleID=63&amp;Format=gif&amp;DivisionNumber=4

Michigan State University, who hold this collection of no doubt thoroughly researched historical works, tell me that there are no bibliographic references in the comic whatever, and that it was quite common, especially during wartime, for this comic to just pull stories out of its bottom that would help the war effort in any way.

There are countless other factual errors made in that series, but then again as far as I can tell History Abuse didn&#039;t make it past one series.

I don&#039;t care if they&#039;re bringing Science/History/whatever academic subject &quot;to the masses&quot;, if they&#039;re misrepresenting it like this, to me it&#039;s a case of &quot;with friends like these, who needs enemies&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I&#8217;m seriously disappointed re Brainiac&#8217;s faking. For me, it&#8217;s not good enough to claim (&#8220;it&#8217;s TV moron, don&#8217;t take it seriously) because without qualification of what&#8217;s being shown, people WILL assume that what&#8217;s happening is a) factually correct, and b) really happening. And why shouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>I certainly wouldn&#8217;t know when they were faking; I&#8217;m a Humanities Graduate. Now, their spin-off &#8220;History Abuse&#8221; *does* fall into my area of professional interest, and I can tell you that it&#8217;s utter rubbish too. In fact I&#8217;ve emailed them to complain about a story presented as &#8220;unbelievable, but TRUE!!!&#8221; by a re-enactor type they have on it.</p>
<p>Wait for it&#8230; a dog firing a cannon at approaching French cavalry at an C18th battle.. as far as I can tell, having checked both the literature and the web, the only source for this anecdote is this:</p>
<p><a href="http://digital.test.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?action=view&#038;TitleID=63&#038;Format=gif&#038;DivisionNumber=4" rel="nofollow">digital.test.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?action=view&#038;TitleID=63&#038;Format=gif&#038;DivisionNumber=4</a></p>
<p>Michigan State University, who hold this collection of no doubt thoroughly researched historical works, tell me that there are no bibliographic references in the comic whatever, and that it was quite common, especially during wartime, for this comic to just pull stories out of its bottom that would help the war effort in any way.</p>
<p>There are countless other factual errors made in that series, but then again as far as I can tell History Abuse didn&#8217;t make it past one series.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if they&#8217;re bringing Science/History/whatever academic subject &#8220;to the masses&#8221;, if they&#8217;re misrepresenting it like this, to me it&#8217;s a case of &#8220;with friends like these, who needs enemies&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had hilarious googleads here for a while, they were advertising all the things i was taking the piss out of, but then googleads banned me. they wouldnt tell me why either, and looking at their list the only thing i could think might apply to me was &quot;encouraging people to click on the ads&quot; which i once did in the forum: someone was hassling me for &quot;misleading the public because they might think i endorse the homeopaths advertised&quot; and i said something along the lines of... you know... anyone stupid enough to think that i endorse a particular homeopath deserves to lose their money, click for you life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had hilarious googleads here for a while, they were advertising all the things i was taking the piss out of, but then googleads banned me. they wouldnt tell me why either, and looking at their list the only thing i could think might apply to me was &#8220;encouraging people to click on the ads&#8221; which i once did in the forum: someone was hassling me for &#8220;misleading the public because they might think i endorse the homeopaths advertised&#8221; and i said something along the lines of&#8230; you know&#8230; anyone stupid enough to think that i endorse a particular homeopath deserves to lose their money, click for you life.</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2006/07/whos-the-daddy/comment-page-1/#comment-6689</link>
		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect to the google ads- I can assure you, as a long-time friend of Theo&#039;s, that the ads featuring their own forms of bullshittery have absolutely &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; relation to him. Not his style, I promise you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to the google ads- I can assure you, as a long-time friend of Theo&#8217;s, that the ads featuring their own forms of bullshittery have absolutely <i>no</i> relation to him. Not his style, I promise you.</p>
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		<title>By: guthrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>guthrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I cam concerned, if they are using fireworks and stuff to make something look more spectacular, and not telling people, thats lying.  
can you see it in real science? 
&quot;Oh well, you know my actual yield was only 20%, so I added some salt, which looks like what I was making, so everyone could see what it would look like.  Its not my fault that they thought I had a much higher yield.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I cam concerned, if they are using fireworks and stuff to make something look more spectacular, and not telling people, thats lying.<br />
can you see it in real science?<br />
&#8220;Oh well, you know my actual yield was only 20%, so I added some salt, which looks like what I was making, so everyone could see what it would look like.  Its not my fault that they thought I had a much higher yield.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a series coming out on the National Geographic channel called &quot;I Didn&#039;t Know That&quot;.  From the press blurb it sounds just like Brainiac, but knowing the National Geographic channel, and having met one of the presenters (albeit once) I&#039;m expecting it to be a little more like the excellent Mythbusters mentioned above.

Unfortunately, I dont get the National Geographic channel so I won&#039;t be able to see it.  However, it&#039;s starting on Thursday 7th September 9pm and they&#039;ve filmed 10 episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a series coming out on the National Geographic channel called &#8220;I Didn&#8217;t Know That&#8221;.  From the press blurb it sounds just like Brainiac, but knowing the National Geographic channel, and having met one of the presenters (albeit once) I&#8217;m expecting it to be a little more like the excellent Mythbusters mentioned above.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I dont get the National Geographic channel so I won&#8217;t be able to see it.  However, it&#8217;s starting on Thursday 7th September 9pm and they&#8217;ve filmed 10 episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[coughs]

i&#039;ve just put my new accusations of other faked items on brainiac to sky, and instead of getting back to me on whether they are faked or not, as they they have been saying they would do for a week, they now are now refusing to comment on any of them. i think that&#039;s a rather extraordinary thing.

they say this:

Hi Ben

This is our statement for your use in connection with any column you may wish to write on this matter.  There will be no further comment.

â€œBrainiac: Science Abuse is a fun, light-hearted entertainment show. If youâ€™re expecting to see the Open University â€“ youâ€™re on the wrong channel!  We make science fun!  That said, it is possible to learn while having fun and we do always ensure that all of the methodology and theory in the show is absolutely correct.  First and foremost weâ€™re in the business of making people laugh, entertaining them and, having consulted with real grown up scientists, we can assure viewers that the science behind the stunts is factually correct.  Weâ€™re known for our love of big explosions, our fans love them too and when we add a little something to create a bigger bang everyoneâ€™s in on the joke.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[coughs]</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve just put my new accusations of other faked items on brainiac to sky, and instead of getting back to me on whether they are faked or not, as they they have been saying they would do for a week, they now are now refusing to comment on any of them. i think that&#8217;s a rather extraordinary thing.</p>
<p>they say this:</p>
<p>Hi Ben</p>
<p>This is our statement for your use in connection with any column you may wish to write on this matter.  There will be no further comment.</p>
<p>â€œBrainiac: Science Abuse is a fun, light-hearted entertainment show. If youâ€™re expecting to see the Open University â€“ youâ€™re on the wrong channel!  We make science fun!  That said, it is possible to learn while having fun and we do always ensure that all of the methodology and theory in the show is absolutely correct.  First and foremost weâ€™re in the business of making people laugh, entertaining them and, having consulted with real grown up scientists, we can assure viewers that the science behind the stunts is factually correct.  Weâ€™re known for our love of big explosions, our fans love them too and when we add a little something to create a bigger bang everyoneâ€™s in on the joke.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Filias Cupio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filias Cupio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œCesium Chloride is one of the most alkaline elements. Otto Warburg won a Nobel prize for showing that cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. Research by Keith Brewer, PhD and H.E. Sartori has shown that raising the pH, or oxygen content, range of a cell to 8.0 creates a deadly environment for cancer. â€

Cesium Chloride contains cesium. What happens if you add cesium to water? You get cesium hydroxide. What is a significant property of CsOH? It is alkaline. What is something that alkali can do? It can kill cells. What is a type of cell? Cancer cells. Therefore taking cesium chloride orally kills cancer cells. And if a lady weighs the same as a duck, she must be a witch.

The science would be a bit stronger if they used arsenic chloride instead - it doesn&#039;t take much of that to kill a cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œCesium Chloride is one of the most alkaline elements. Otto Warburg won a Nobel prize for showing that cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. Research by Keith Brewer, PhD and H.E. Sartori has shown that raising the pH, or oxygen content, range of a cell to 8.0 creates a deadly environment for cancer. â€</p>
<p>Cesium Chloride contains cesium. What happens if you add cesium to water? You get cesium hydroxide. What is a significant property of CsOH? It is alkaline. What is something that alkali can do? It can kill cells. What is a type of cell? Cancer cells. Therefore taking cesium chloride orally kills cancer cells. And if a lady weighs the same as a duck, she must be a witch.</p>
<p>The science would be a bit stronger if they used arsenic chloride instead &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t take much of that to kill a cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two health-bollocks sites JohnD mentioned gave me a laugh. As a recovering chemistry grad and a lab researcher of (inter alia) both cellular pH homeostasis and free radical action, I dialled them up for a look-see.

The idea of CsCl as a therapy ... is there ANYONE crazy enough to waste money on this kind of thing?  The scientist behind the theory that they mention, A Keith Brewer (1893-1986) existed, but I rather think we&#039;d have heard, in the 20 yrs since his death, if alkalinizing cells cured cancer. ..And, if anything, acidifying them would be more likely to do them harm. However, an exhasutive search on Medline revealed one recent paper in a proper journal dosing rats with prostate-derived implanted tumours with CsCl, so doubtless that will soon be cited in the &quot;Caseium therapy&quot; advertising literature to help snare the unwary and desperate. 

The Finchley Clinic / &quot;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement &quot; site is even more mind-boggling. I tried to see if they said what was actually in this concoction and found:

&quot;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement also containing digestive enzymes, metabolic enzymes, 21 amino acids and 77 trace minerals.&quot;

http://www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_What.htm

- which left me little the wiser as to how this, quote, &quot;floods your body with oxygen&quot;

 Although I WAS left thinking:  

Hmmm... take large quantities  of a mixture of  amino-acids... mix with a supermarket-type multivitamins-and-minerals formula... add a bit of  &quot;antioxidant cocktail&quot;... plus some trypsin and amylase... mix well.... then bottle and sell to incredible idiots at a price sufficient to make myself a nice little wedge. Lovely.

The site also explains that:

&quot;...for SERIOUS ILLNESS, it needs to be taken IN MUCH HIGHER THAN STANDARD DOSES, in which case we strongly reccomend (sic) buying several bottles at a time&quot;

They also give some testimonials from satisfied customers:

http://www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_Plus_testimonials.htm

..from which I learnt that it works on dogs as well as humans.

Incidentally,it is pleasing to find that  &quot;Oxygen Elements Plus comes with a 60 day money back guarantee from the manufacturers&quot;. Wonder if anyone ever asks for a refund?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two health-bollocks sites JohnD mentioned gave me a laugh. As a recovering chemistry grad and a lab researcher of (inter alia) both cellular pH homeostasis and free radical action, I dialled them up for a look-see.</p>
<p>The idea of CsCl as a therapy &#8230; is there ANYONE crazy enough to waste money on this kind of thing?  The scientist behind the theory that they mention, A Keith Brewer (1893-1986) existed, but I rather think we&#8217;d have heard, in the 20 yrs since his death, if alkalinizing cells cured cancer. ..And, if anything, acidifying them would be more likely to do them harm. However, an exhasutive search on Medline revealed one recent paper in a proper journal dosing rats with prostate-derived implanted tumours with CsCl, so doubtless that will soon be cited in the &#8220;Caseium therapy&#8221; advertising literature to help snare the unwary and desperate. </p>
<p>The Finchley Clinic / &#8220;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement &#8221; site is even more mind-boggling. I tried to see if they said what was actually in this concoction and found:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement also containing digestive enzymes, metabolic enzymes, 21 amino acids and 77 trace minerals.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_What.htm" rel="nofollow">www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_What.htm</a></p>
<p>- which left me little the wiser as to how this, quote, &#8220;floods your body with oxygen&#8221;</p>
<p> Although I WAS left thinking:  </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; take large quantities  of a mixture of  amino-acids&#8230; mix with a supermarket-type multivitamins-and-minerals formula&#8230; add a bit of  &#8220;antioxidant cocktail&#8221;&#8230; plus some trypsin and amylase&#8230; mix well&#8230;. then bottle and sell to incredible idiots at a price sufficient to make myself a nice little wedge. Lovely.</p>
<p>The site also explains that:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;for SERIOUS ILLNESS, it needs to be taken IN MUCH HIGHER THAN STANDARD DOSES, in which case we strongly reccomend (sic) buying several bottles at a time&#8221;</p>
<p>They also give some testimonials from satisfied customers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_Plus_testimonials.htm" rel="nofollow">www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavascript/products/Oxygen_Elements_Plus_testimonials.htm</a></p>
<p>..from which I learnt that it works on dogs as well as humans.</p>
<p>Incidentally,it is pleasing to find that  &#8220;Oxygen Elements Plus comes with a 60 day money back guarantee from the manufacturers&#8221;. Wonder if anyone ever asks for a refund?</p>
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		<title>By: Pish-Tush!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pish-Tush!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Nice!
No one seems to have cited Oliver Sacks&#039; &quot;Uncle Tungsten&quot; in which he claims to have thrown 3LB of Sodium into Highgate ponds with the assistance of Jonathan Miller. I have difficulty in believing that schoolboys could buy that sort of thing even in the 1940s. In Primo Levi&#039;s &quot;The Periodic Table&quot; he talks of igniting Potassium after using it in place of Sodium to distil Benzene to a truly anhydrous state. There was some left in the apparatus when he washed up and that set everything alight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Nice!<br />
No one seems to have cited Oliver Sacks&#8217; &#8220;Uncle Tungsten&#8221; in which he claims to have thrown 3LB of Sodium into Highgate ponds with the assistance of Jonathan Miller. I have difficulty in believing that schoolboys could buy that sort of thing even in the 1940s. In Primo Levi&#8217;s &#8220;The Periodic Table&#8221; he talks of igniting Potassium after using it in place of Sodium to distil Benzene to a truly anhydrous state. There was some left in the apparatus when he washed up and that set everything alight!</p>
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		<title>By: superburger</title>
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		<dc:creator>superburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If braniacs was a &#039;serious&#039; science programme, they could have shown the failed experiments, and pointed out the reasons why it might have failed (and told how science comes up with hypotheses, designs experiments to test them, then refines hypotheses based on results from these experiments) 

Havnig shown how not to make Cs explode, they could have then gone on to repeat the catapult experiment shown in in the tinyurl post.

That would be educational, and pretty entertaining (plenty of suspens when it doesn&#039;t blow, followed by a climatic finale)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If braniacs was a &#8216;serious&#8217; science programme, they could have shown the failed experiments, and pointed out the reasons why it might have failed (and told how science comes up with hypotheses, designs experiments to test them, then refines hypotheses based on results from these experiments) </p>
<p>Havnig shown how not to make Cs explode, they could have then gone on to repeat the catapult experiment shown in in the tinyurl post.</p>
<p>That would be educational, and pretty entertaining (plenty of suspens when it doesn&#8217;t blow, followed by a climatic finale)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have some control over Google adverts.  A technology news site&#039;s coverage of the Asian tsunami was decorated with adverts for surfing and scuba gear until I dropped them an e-mail, then it stopped.

Casual dishonesty in the media worries me.  For instance, you may recall a fuss over - was it John Prescott, in the late 1990s? - pictured in a bar with wine bottles in the foreground, which, it turned out, were painted in in place of beer bottles - or something like that.  But more alarming to me is when the principle of elegant page composition, where IIRC posed human figures are supposed to face into the centre of the page, is applied to people carrying protest banners: a digitally produced newspaper&#039;s photo editor will just flip a picture around and then flip the words to match.  If it&#039;s done for something as insignificant as that, then there really is no barrier to gross dishonesty as well.

As far as Brainiac Science Abuse goes, if they&#039;re making cartoons of science experiments then that&#039;s one thing, but they should be more clearly marked as cartoons.  But if they&#039;re leading people to believe - as you normally would when you aren&#039;t watching fiction - that a television camera was pointed at a real thing happening, that&#039;s cheating.

Maybe they should go like &quot;[u]Mystery Science Theater 3000[/u]&quot; and set it on a space station, so that you can see they&#039;re pretending, or have the Teletubbies present it.  &quot;Ooh!  Big bang!&quot;  &quot;The Teletubbies love to blow things up very much!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have some control over Google adverts.  A technology news site&#8217;s coverage of the Asian tsunami was decorated with adverts for surfing and scuba gear until I dropped them an e-mail, then it stopped.</p>
<p>Casual dishonesty in the media worries me.  For instance, you may recall a fuss over &#8211; was it John Prescott, in the late 1990s? &#8211; pictured in a bar with wine bottles in the foreground, which, it turned out, were painted in in place of beer bottles &#8211; or something like that.  But more alarming to me is when the principle of elegant page composition, where IIRC posed human figures are supposed to face into the centre of the page, is applied to people carrying protest banners: a digitally produced newspaper&#8217;s photo editor will just flip a picture around and then flip the words to match.  If it&#8217;s done for something as insignificant as that, then there really is no barrier to gross dishonesty as well.</p>
<p>As far as Brainiac Science Abuse goes, if they&#8217;re making cartoons of science experiments then that&#8217;s one thing, but they should be more clearly marked as cartoons.  But if they&#8217;re leading people to believe &#8211; as you normally would when you aren&#8217;t watching fiction &#8211; that a television camera was pointed at a real thing happening, that&#8217;s cheating.</p>
<p>Maybe they should go like &#8220;[u]Mystery Science Theater 3000[/u]&#8221; and set it on a space station, so that you can see they&#8217;re pretending, or have the Teletubbies present it.  &#8220;Ooh!  Big bang!&#8221;  &#8220;The Teletubbies love to blow things up very much!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nurn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nurn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me that the guys on the Discovery Channel, Mythbusters, are not up to the same fakery!!??  They do seem like true nerds, though, so I&#039;m hoping...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me that the guys on the Discovery Channel, Mythbusters, are not up to the same fakery!!??  They do seem like true nerds, though, so I&#8217;m hoping&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Talisker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talisker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John -- the ads are by Google Ads (Gooooogle... whatever) so I doubt that Gray has any control over what they show.  They&#039;re just things that a text-processing algorithm has decided are relevant to the content of Gray&#039;s site.  Unfortunately this includes a lot of scam artists who happen to be using chemistry terminology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8212; the ads are by Google Ads (Gooooogle&#8230; whatever) so I doubt that Gray has any control over what they show.  They&#8217;re just things that a text-processing algorithm has decided are relevant to the content of Gray&#8217;s site.  Unfortunately this includes a lot of scam artists who happen to be using chemistry terminology.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnD</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just shows, even grown up people can behave like kids. Silly kids.

How did you find the site, Ben? 
His &#039;party page&#039; includes some most dubious looking ads:
http://www.thefinchleyclinic.com/shop/oxygenelementsplus-p-10.html selling &quot;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement &quot;.  Presumably Hydrogen peroxide.

And

 &quot;Cesium Chloride Therapy ( http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/cesium.htm )
Kill cancer cells with high body ph Find information and research here.  &quot;

I seem to remember you writing about the oxygen scam - the Cesium one looks much more unpleasant in that it is pitched at people with cancer.   Even though the site warns to consult your doctor, the science quoted is awfully (fills me with awe) bad:

&quot;Cesium Chloride is one of the most alkaline elements. Otto Warburg won a Nobel prize for showing that cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. Research by Keith Brewer, PhD and H.E. Sartori has shown that raising the pH, or oxygen content, range of a cell to 8.0 creates a deadly environment for cancer. &quot;
 Have you inveighed against this?

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just shows, even grown up people can behave like kids. Silly kids.</p>
<p>How did you find the site, Ben?<br />
His &#8216;party page&#8217; includes some most dubious looking ads:<br />
<a href="http://www.thefinchleyclinic.com/shop/oxygenelementsplus-p-10.html" rel="nofollow">www.thefinchleyclinic.com/shop/oxygenelementsplus-p-10.html</a> selling &#8220;Oxygen Elements Plus is a liquid Oxygen supplement &#8220;.  Presumably Hydrogen peroxide.</p>
<p>And</p>
<p> &#8220;Cesium Chloride Therapy ( <a href="http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/cesium.htm" rel="nofollow">www.essense-of-life.com/info/cesium.htm</a> )<br />
Kill cancer cells with high body ph Find information and research here.  &#8221;</p>
<p>I seem to remember you writing about the oxygen scam &#8211; the Cesium one looks much more unpleasant in that it is pitched at people with cancer.   Even though the site warns to consult your doctor, the science quoted is awfully (fills me with awe) bad:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cesium Chloride is one of the most alkaline elements. Otto Warburg won a Nobel prize for showing that cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. Research by Keith Brewer, PhD and H.E. Sartori has shown that raising the pH, or oxygen content, range of a cell to 8.0 creates a deadly environment for cancer. &#8221;<br />
 Have you inveighed against this?</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: jaffa_cake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaffa_cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t anyone remember the Open University programme where they dumped a series of alkali metals into water?  I can&#039;t remember how many they did, but the last one blew up the tank of water quite successfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone remember the Open University programme where they dumped a series of alkali metals into water?  I can&#8217;t remember how many they did, but the last one blew up the tank of water quite successfully.</p>
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