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		<title>By: jiangjiang</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: claireatcthisspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>claireatcthisspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fg,

Quote &quot; (And PS Claire, I volunteer the kitten for a re-run of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat - in the name of Science, you understand.)&quot;-fg


Ok. That&#039;s interesting! A re-run.

The past history, with no history, of a past history. Could kitten really claim a past history of a past history, if a re-run was run, with a kitten that would re-run and accelerate to the point that would be past the past history, or would the run before the re-run, in which the past of the past history was the run, run past the re-run of the past history?

Or does it just like Kitten Nibbles?

Claire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fg,</p>
<p>Quote &#8221; (And PS Claire, I volunteer the kitten for a re-run of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat &#8211; in the name of Science, you understand.)&#8221;-fg</p>
<p>Ok. That&#8217;s interesting! A re-run.</p>
<p>The past history, with no history, of a past history. Could kitten really claim a past history of a past history, if a re-run was run, with a kitten that would re-run and accelerate to the point that would be past the past history, or would the run before the re-run, in which the past of the past history was the run, run past the re-run of the past history?</p>
<p>Or does it just like Kitten Nibbles?</p>
<p>Claire</p>
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		<title>By: birdoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 32

If a God did create the Universe, we can infer that he has powers beyond our imagination, and has essentially (within the universe) infinite power. Therefore God&#039;s conception of elegant mechanism would presumably be in terms outside of our conception. Although that could leave us with evolution as a surface level by-product, only elegant to our interpretation! And then there&#039;s instant creation! That&#039;s always a nifty trick.</description>
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<p>If a God did create the Universe, we can infer that he has powers beyond our imagination, and has essentially (within the universe) infinite power. Therefore God&#8217;s conception of elegant mechanism would presumably be in terms outside of our conception. Although that could leave us with evolution as a surface level by-product, only elegant to our interpretation! And then there&#8217;s instant creation! That&#8217;s always a nifty trick.</p>
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		<title>By: Delster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>assuming for a moment that God did create the universe..... can you think of any more elegant mechanism, for him (her / them) to have used, to develop life than evolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assuming for a moment that God did create the universe&#8230;.. can you think of any more elegant mechanism, for him (her / them) to have used, to develop life than evolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tesco still has some not-as-splendid-as-Lidl microscopes for ten quid.  They may or may not be naff, but possibly good enough to have some fun with.  Lidl, on the other hand, tends not to keep things for very long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tesco still has some not-as-splendid-as-Lidl microscopes for ten quid.  They may or may not be naff, but possibly good enough to have some fun with.  Lidl, on the other hand, tends not to keep things for very long.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Ben&#039;s column on the Durham trials has made one of the readers&#039; choices of the year in today&#039;s Guardian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Ben&#8217;s column on the Durham trials has made one of the readers&#8217; choices of the year in today&#8217;s Guardian.</p>
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		<title>By: fg</title>
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		<dc:creator>fg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Nother slogan based T-shirt, which is tasteful and inflammatory:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/335256922_bd314c7aab.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Nother slogan based T-shirt, which is tasteful and inflammatory:</p>
<p><a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/335256922_bd314c7aab.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/335256922_bd314c7aab.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: ZoeinDerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZoeinDerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take the point about religions but there are some that have been developed since the Enlightenment, for example Unitarianism which, although one of the original &#039;heresies&#039; of Christianity, did not really take off until the 17th century in the form of the Non-Subscribing Presbyterians and later, in a big way, in the 18th century. It was Unitarians who were largely responsible for the establishment of the Lunar Society and later the Derby Philosophical Society (and where would chemistry be without the work of Joseph Priestley?) and in the 19th century for the Co-operative Movement. Take a look at the Hibbert Assembly website for information on the scientific achievements of Unitarians, amongst other topics.

Over the past 15 years I have met some fascinating people at Essex Unitarian Church (Kensington), including a BBC documentary-maker and Ted Gaebler, author of Reinventing Government.  The Unitarian chapel in Hampstead has been advertised on its noticeboard as &quot;Heaven for heretics&quot;. Information on Unitarian congregations and special-interest groups can be found at www.unitarian.org.uk 

There are, of course, other religious and philosophical movements that are both socially progressive and scientifically literate, the Religious Society of Friends and the Liberal and Reform synagogues being the obvious ones. The problem seems to be that, in order for religions to attract the attention of the media at present, they need to be run by and for bigots, which is why no newspaper requesting a &quot;Muslim&quot; point of view bothers to consult the Ismailis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the point about religions but there are some that have been developed since the Enlightenment, for example Unitarianism which, although one of the original &#8216;heresies&#8217; of Christianity, did not really take off until the 17th century in the form of the Non-Subscribing Presbyterians and later, in a big way, in the 18th century. It was Unitarians who were largely responsible for the establishment of the Lunar Society and later the Derby Philosophical Society (and where would chemistry be without the work of Joseph Priestley?) and in the 19th century for the Co-operative Movement. Take a look at the Hibbert Assembly website for information on the scientific achievements of Unitarians, amongst other topics.</p>
<p>Over the past 15 years I have met some fascinating people at Essex Unitarian Church (Kensington), including a BBC documentary-maker and Ted Gaebler, author of Reinventing Government.  The Unitarian chapel in Hampstead has been advertised on its noticeboard as &#8220;Heaven for heretics&#8221;. Information on Unitarian congregations and special-interest groups can be found at <a href="http://www.unitarian.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.unitarian.org.uk</a> </p>
<p>There are, of course, other religious and philosophical movements that are both socially progressive and scientifically literate, the Religious Society of Friends and the Liberal and Reform synagogues being the obvious ones. The problem seems to be that, in order for religions to attract the attention of the media at present, they need to be run by and for bigots, which is why no newspaper requesting a &#8220;Muslim&#8221; point of view bothers to consult the Ismailis.</p>
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		<title>By: sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the broken link.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://plantsinmotion.bio.indiana.edu/plantmotion/starthere.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Plants-In-Motion&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="http://plantsinmotion.bio.indiana.edu/plantmotion/starthere.html" rel="nofollow">Plants-In-Motion</a></p>
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		<title>By: sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those without a microscope (and even for those with one, as these things are pretty difficult to see):  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snowcrystals.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Snow Crystals&lt;/a&gt;.

As for phototropism, &lt;a&gt;Plants-In-Motion&lt;/a&gt; has some very nice time-lapse photos of the phenomenon, along with other plant motion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those without a microscope (and even for those with one, as these things are pretty difficult to see):  <a href="http://www.snowcrystals.com/" rel="nofollow">Snow Crystals</a>.</p>
<p>As for phototropism, <a>Plants-In-Motion</a> has some very nice time-lapse photos of the phenomenon, along with other plant motion.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and probably you couldn&#039;t export them from America to socialist countries - the good ones (the instruments, not the countries).  Maybe still can&#039;t.  Nowadays socialists can&#039;t afford the things anyway, I expect - unless they go to Lidl apparently...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and probably you couldn&#8217;t export them from America to socialist countries &#8211; the good ones (the instruments, not the countries).  Maybe still can&#8217;t.  Nowadays socialists can&#8217;t afford the things anyway, I expect &#8211; unless they go to Lidl apparently&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably the Taliban banned both instruments (I have no idea), and of course China and Cambodia at different times made it difficult to wear spectacles.  The early telescope was initially a military tool, but the secret got out rather quickly.  Any optician could make one.

The earliest microscope was essentially a drop of water, I think.  Again difficult to ban...

Let me describe as apocryphal - instead of taking the effort to check - the claim that one of Galileo&#039;s inquisitors pronounced that there was no need to look through Galileo&#039;s telescope at his claimed wonders to know that they weren&#039;t really there.  I have an idea that it wasn&#039;t satellites of Jupiter but imperfections on the Moon that upset them, but, as I say, I ain&#039;t checking.  Because the Moon was in the heavens, it ought to be perfect, like any other heavenly thing.  Aristotle said so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the Taliban banned both instruments (I have no idea), and of course China and Cambodia at different times made it difficult to wear spectacles.  The early telescope was initially a military tool, but the secret got out rather quickly.  Any optician could make one.</p>
<p>The earliest microscope was essentially a drop of water, I think.  Again difficult to ban&#8230;</p>
<p>Let me describe as apocryphal &#8211; instead of taking the effort to check &#8211; the claim that one of Galileo&#8217;s inquisitors pronounced that there was no need to look through Galileo&#8217;s telescope at his claimed wonders to know that they weren&#8217;t really there.  I have an idea that it wasn&#8217;t satellites of Jupiter but imperfections on the Moon that upset them, but, as I say, I ain&#8217;t checking.  Because the Moon was in the heavens, it ought to be perfect, like any other heavenly thing.  Aristotle said so.</p>
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		<title>By: roy pennington</title>
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		<dc:creator>roy pennington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good start for the year, Ben. Tell me, were microscopes or telescopes at any time ever banned  by law (religious or otherwise)? I feel a conspiracy / false history starting.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good start for the year, Ben. Tell me, were microscopes or telescopes at any time ever banned  by law (religious or otherwise)? I feel a conspiracy / false history starting&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Twm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 04:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great about the Lidl microscope. I have been looking for good/cheap microscope for a few weeks.
I finished reading John Postgate&#039;s &quot;The Outer Reaches of life&quot; which really sums up why Science is important to me. Postgate manages to write about something seemingly obscure as bacteria which such interest and conviction to passing on the knowledge.
After reading the book, I feel a lot more at one with the world, knowing just how much we rely on our little multiplying friends and hence the sudden urgency for microscope.

One of my favourite quotes is from Economist John Maynard Keynes, in response to accusations of inconsitencies in his arguments/thinking he replied &quot;When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?&quot;

For years, I was quite happy with my view of sperm as being little tadpole like dudes bouncing along looking for an egg. But when I was advised to freeze some sperm before an operation, I kept asking loads of questions - I wanted to know more., like how do you count sperm?
The kind doctor took me into the lab to see my sperm swimming around on a screen.
My anthropomorphising of sperm was a perfectly acceptable model of how sperm worked for my day to day needs, but staring at those little speedy fellas on the screen and realising that they have no eyes, no sense of the world and that I had no concept of how the fuck they worked really had a profound effect on me and I suddenly developed a thirst for knowledge of the micro.

The reductionist view of the world - the aim that everything should be explained as simply but as correctly as possible gives us a project that will last at least long as humanity, there is no time where we will just down tools and declare a new compete religion. And that&#039;s an amazing and beautiful thing.
Watching the power of 10, like a shot of morphine fills us with numbing high of a seemingly coherent universe shortly followed by a lingering nausea as it&#039;s simultaniously too large and too small to comprehend. We probably even realise that there is contentment with a macro level of understanding but that&#039;s no longer a possibility. We&#039;ve started so we must finish.

Maybe watching this at the turn of a new year is helpful...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great about the Lidl microscope. I have been looking for good/cheap microscope for a few weeks.<br />
I finished reading John Postgate&#8217;s &#8220;The Outer Reaches of life&#8221; which really sums up why Science is important to me. Postgate manages to write about something seemingly obscure as bacteria which such interest and conviction to passing on the knowledge.<br />
After reading the book, I feel a lot more at one with the world, knowing just how much we rely on our little multiplying friends and hence the sudden urgency for microscope.</p>
<p>One of my favourite quotes is from Economist John Maynard Keynes, in response to accusations of inconsitencies in his arguments/thinking he replied &#8220;When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?&#8221;</p>
<p>For years, I was quite happy with my view of sperm as being little tadpole like dudes bouncing along looking for an egg. But when I was advised to freeze some sperm before an operation, I kept asking loads of questions &#8211; I wanted to know more., like how do you count sperm?<br />
The kind doctor took me into the lab to see my sperm swimming around on a screen.<br />
My anthropomorphising of sperm was a perfectly acceptable model of how sperm worked for my day to day needs, but staring at those little speedy fellas on the screen and realising that they have no eyes, no sense of the world and that I had no concept of how the fuck they worked really had a profound effect on me and I suddenly developed a thirst for knowledge of the micro.</p>
<p>The reductionist view of the world &#8211; the aim that everything should be explained as simply but as correctly as possible gives us a project that will last at least long as humanity, there is no time where we will just down tools and declare a new compete religion. And that&#8217;s an amazing and beautiful thing.<br />
Watching the power of 10, like a shot of morphine fills us with numbing high of a seemingly coherent universe shortly followed by a lingering nausea as it&#8217;s simultaniously too large and too small to comprehend. We probably even realise that there is contentment with a macro level of understanding but that&#8217;s no longer a possibility. We&#8217;ve started so we must finish.</p>
<p>Maybe watching this at the turn of a new year is helpful&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24</a></p>
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		<title>By: raygirvan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;CDavis: Lidl&lt;/i&gt;

Brilliant: I wants one.  We have  a Lidl nearby. Thanks.

Best wishes for the season.

Ray and Clare</description>
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<p>Brilliant: I wants one.  We have  a Lidl nearby. Thanks.</p>
<p>Best wishes for the season.</p>
<p>Ray and Clare</p>
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		<title>By: CTWARD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTWARD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by the spilling in some of the posts above some of us are already well into the festive spirit. Merry Christmas everyone, I&#039;m off to Lidl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by the spilling in some of the posts above some of us are already well into the festive spirit. Merry Christmas everyone, I&#8217;m off to Lidl.</p>
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		<title>By: AitchJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>AitchJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry Cristmas Ben, and everyone.</description>
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		<title>By: fg</title>
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		<dc:creator>fg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I know you were on about stuff you can see with a naked eye, but nevertheless my list of Science&#039;s &quot;Wow!-factor&quot; includes all of quantum mechanics (try Paul Daviesâ€™ &lt;i&gt;In search of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat&lt;/i&gt;), and much of the incredible things going on in our cells - like, for example, the way &quot;stem&quot; cell &quot;lines&quot; ensure they remain free of damaged proteins (&lt;a href=&quot;http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&amp;doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0040446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;summarised here&lt;/a&gt;).  But such feelings aren&#039;t incompatible with religion, whatever Richard Dawkins and some parts of â€œthe organised religionsâ€ would have you believe.  Indeed my sense of wonder over science is isomorphic with my sense of God â€“ although I accept that evolution+nurture has simply made me this way.  (And incidentally, I despair of the people who think God sat down with a sketch pad and decided the universe would be â€œjust soâ€; itâ€™s an incredible, fantastic, amazing universe, full of astounding phenomena, and only an idiot would think otherwise.)  And so I can genuinely wish everyone a Merry Christmas - and a back-to-grumpily normal new year.  

(And PS Claire, I volunteer the kitten for a re-run of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat - in the name of Science, you understand.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I know you were on about stuff you can see with a naked eye, but nevertheless my list of Science&#8217;s &#8220;Wow!-factor&#8221; includes all of quantum mechanics (try Paul Daviesâ€™ <i>In search of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat</i>), and much of the incredible things going on in our cells &#8211; like, for example, the way &#8220;stem&#8221; cell &#8220;lines&#8221; ensure they remain free of damaged proteins (<a href="http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&amp;doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0040446" rel="nofollow">summarised here</a>).  But such feelings aren&#8217;t incompatible with religion, whatever Richard Dawkins and some parts of â€œthe organised religionsâ€ would have you believe.  Indeed my sense of wonder over science is isomorphic with my sense of God â€“ although I accept that evolution+nurture has simply made me this way.  (And incidentally, I despair of the people who think God sat down with a sketch pad and decided the universe would be â€œjust soâ€; itâ€™s an incredible, fantastic, amazing universe, full of astounding phenomena, and only an idiot would think otherwise.)  And so I can genuinely wish everyone a Merry Christmas &#8211; and a back-to-grumpily normal new year.  </p>
<p>(And PS Claire, I volunteer the kitten for a re-run of SchrÃ¶dingerâ€™s Cat &#8211; in the name of Science, you understand.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Zetie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Zetie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re 17: Will...all kids of reasons for not living in London...

Actually, all said and done I only live a little west of twon - just beyond the M25 and that&#039;s good enough to see some remarkable &#039;shit&#039;. Nothing like real darkness though.

Having started an astronomy club at school we&#039;re still waiting for our solar filter, the sun being one of the few stars worth looking at from London.

cheers

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 17: Will&#8230;all kids of reasons for not living in London&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, all said and done I only live a little west of twon &#8211; just beyond the M25 and that&#8217;s good enough to see some remarkable &#8217;shit&#8217;. Nothing like real darkness though.</p>
<p>Having started an astronomy club at school we&#8217;re still waiting for our solar filter, the sun being one of the few stars worth looking at from London.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Bob O'H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob O'H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post just reminded me about squirrels:
http://xkcd.com/c167.html

And a merry Newtonmass to you all!

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post just reminded me about squirrels:<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/c167.html" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/c167.html</a></p>
<p>And a merry Newtonmass to you all!</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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