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		<title>By: diudiu</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-30273</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TroyKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>TroyKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:

&quot;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &quot;

Perhaps you do not realise that:
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:

&quot;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&quot;

2) The UK&#039;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.

3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#039;s 3% of the Swedish population).

4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:
&quot;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&quot;

She is also a trained physician.

With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails - clearly this will only put people&#039;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#039;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#039;Yuppie Flu&#039;. It&#039;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.<br />
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you do not realise that:<br />
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:</p>
<p>&#8220;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) The UK&#8217;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.</p>
<p>3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#8217;s 3% of the Swedish population).</p>
<p>4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:<br />
&#8220;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&#8221;</p>
<p>She is also a trained physician.</p>
<p>With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails &#8211; clearly this will only put people&#8217;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#8242;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#8216;Yuppie Flu&#8217;. It&#8217;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</p>
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		<title>By: TroyKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-12593</link>
		<dc:creator>TroyKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:

&quot;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &quot;

Perhaps you do not realise that:
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:

&quot;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&quot;

2) The UK&#039;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.

3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#039;s 3% of the Swedish population).

4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:
&quot;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&quot;

She is also a trained physician.

With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails - clearly this will only put people&#039;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#039;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#039;Yuppie Flu&#039;. It&#039;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.<br />
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you do not realise that:<br />
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:</p>
<p>&#8220;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) The UK&#8217;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.</p>
<p>3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#8217;s 3% of the Swedish population).</p>
<p>4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:<br />
&#8220;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&#8221;</p>
<p>She is also a trained physician.</p>
<p>With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails &#8211; clearly this will only put people&#8217;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#8242;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#8216;Yuppie Flu&#8217;. It&#8217;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</p>
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		<title>By: TroyKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-12592</link>
		<dc:creator>TroyKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:

&quot;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &quot;

Perhaps you do not realise that:
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:

&quot;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&quot;

2) The UK&#039;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.

3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#039;s 3% of the Swedish population).

4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:
&quot;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&quot;

She is also a trained physician.

With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails - clearly this will only put people&#039;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#039;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#039;Yuppie Flu&#039;. It&#039;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I seem to have caught onto this thread a little late. Just a quick response to Chrichmond, who said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d guess that some/all of the people who think they are electromagnetically sensitive probably have schizophrenia, and outing them might be ethically iffy.<br />
But the peddlers who collude with them deserve no such courtesy. &#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you do not realise that:<br />
1) The World Health Organisation admit that Electrosensitivity is a real condition:</p>
<p>&#8220;EHS [ElectroHyperSensitivity] is characterized by a variety of non-specific symptoms that differ from individual to individual. The symptoms are certainly real and can vary widely in their severity. Whatever its cause, EHS can be a disabling problem for the affected individual.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) The UK&#8217;s own Health Protection Agency admit that it is a real condition.</p>
<p>3) In Sweden, Electrosensitivity is officially regarded as a Physical Impairment and 250,000 people are registered as being sensitive to electricity (that&#8217;s 3% of the Swedish population).</p>
<p>4) Gro Harlem Brundtland, voted in 2004 as the 4th most influential European in the last 25 years behind Pope John Paul II, Mikhail Gorbachev and Margaret Thatcher, suffers from electrosensitivity:<br />
&#8220;I am convinced this has to be taken seriously. Some people develop sensitivity to electricity and radiation from equipment such as mobile phones or PCs. If this sensitivity can lead to adverse health-effects as cancer or other diseases, we do not know yet. But I think we should follow the precautionary principle, especially with regard to our children.&#8221;</p>
<p>She is also a trained physician.</p>
<p>With regard to ElectroSensitive people sending angry emails &#8211; clearly this will only put people&#8217;s backs up and turn people against it. However, I have never known people with a  Physical Impairment to receive such blatent abuse as they do when they have sensitivities to certain electromagnetic fields. Perhaps the closest thing to it would be sufferers from Chronic Fatigue in the 80&#8242;s when they were told they were lazy or had &#8216;Yuppie Flu&#8217;. It&#8217;s not suprising that people get angry when their condition is not accepted by society, particularly when it has such profound effects on their ability to lead a normal life.</p>
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		<title>By: ToeKnee</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-10110</link>
		<dc:creator>ToeKnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taken from the front page of www.electrosensitivity.org.uk...

&quot;Bewildered individuals with reddened skin, eye irritation, tingling, stinging or pricking sensations, swollen mucus membranes, headaches, fatigue and cardiac palpitations were pestering university scientists and commercial electromagnetic shielding experts for advice and help with their symptoms and their causes.&quot;

I think he simply took this from the screenplay for &quot;Dawn of the Dead&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken from the front page of <a href="http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk.." rel="nofollow">www.electrosensitivity.org.uk..</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bewildered individuals with reddened skin, eye irritation, tingling, stinging or pricking sensations, swollen mucus membranes, headaches, fatigue and cardiac palpitations were pestering university scientists and commercial electromagnetic shielding experts for advice and help with their symptoms and their causes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he simply took this from the screenplay for &#8220;Dawn of the Dead&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-10100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh it&#039;s true, and i am disgusting. actually, on a serious note, rod read&#039;s emails are so disjointedly abusive that even his fellow campaigners have said they think he&#039;s a bit of a liability, so i always smile when a journalist manages to make him sound like the voice of reason in their articles. maybe he can switch it off, in which case there&#039;s little excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh it&#8217;s true, and i am disgusting. actually, on a serious note, rod read&#8217;s emails are so disjointedly abusive that even his fellow campaigners have said they think he&#8217;s a bit of a liability, so i always smile when a journalist manages to make him sound like the voice of reason in their articles. maybe he can switch it off, in which case there&#8217;s little excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: used to be jdc</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-2/#comment-10099</link>
		<dc:creator>used to be jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well worth a read. Not only have I found out that you have &quot;an ego the size of a mountain&quot;, but I now know who the &#039;bleeding man&#039; from Breakfast News is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well worth a read. Not only have I found out that you have &#8220;an ego the size of a mountain&#8221;, but I now know who the &#8216;bleeding man&#8217; from Breakfast News is.</p>
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		<title>By: ToeKnee</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10096</link>
		<dc:creator>ToeKnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey.  I&#039;m assuming that you didn&#039;t exchange Christmas cards this year then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey.  I&#8217;m assuming that you didn&#8217;t exchange Christmas cards this year then?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10092</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, some quite good stuff from our old friend rod read engaging with the issues here:

http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/thisweek.htm

&quot;Dr Disgusting Goldacre of the Guardian&quot;, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, some quite good stuff from our old friend rod read engaging with the issues here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/thisweek.htm" rel="nofollow">www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/thisweek.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Dr Disgusting Goldacre of the Guardian&#8221;, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ToeKnee</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10087</link>
		<dc:creator>ToeKnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look Ben, rather than viewing all these nasty emails from homeopaths as your problem why not behave like the physician you are and attempt to treat those who poor folk who send them.  Indeed, you can use their homeopathic beliefs to your advantage by adapting the homeopathic techniques they find so remarkable to create an &#039;antidote&#039;, homeopathic email.  

Take the text from the body of one of these emails and randomly replace 50% of the characters to produce a new email.  Repeat this, each time replacing, totally at random 50% of the characters from the previous email until none of the original email exists.  When complete what you are left with, though void of any of the original &#039;evil&#039; email, will contain the &#039;energy&#039; of the original email in a form that will treat the originator (unfornately there isn&#039;t room to go into the details of exactly how this works, all you need to know is that I have Ph.D. in Electronic Engineering and am dead good with the computer sciencey things and stuff).  

All you need do now is send this email to any homeopath you believe is in need of treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look Ben, rather than viewing all these nasty emails from homeopaths as your problem why not behave like the physician you are and attempt to treat those who poor folk who send them.  Indeed, you can use their homeopathic beliefs to your advantage by adapting the homeopathic techniques they find so remarkable to create an &#8216;antidote&#8217;, homeopathic email.  </p>
<p>Take the text from the body of one of these emails and randomly replace 50% of the characters to produce a new email.  Repeat this, each time replacing, totally at random 50% of the characters from the previous email until none of the original email exists.  When complete what you are left with, though void of any of the original &#8216;evil&#8217; email, will contain the &#8216;energy&#8217; of the original email in a form that will treat the originator (unfornately there isn&#8217;t room to go into the details of exactly how this works, all you need to know is that I have Ph.D. in Electronic Engineering and am dead good with the computer sciencey things and stuff).  </p>
<p>All you need do now is send this email to any homeopath you believe is in need of treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10084</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patent lawyers may be something of a special case (even among lawyers), because there is a specific expectation that communications with them are confidential in that they don&#039;t count as publication, which could invalidate a subsequent patent (I am not a lawyer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patent lawyers may be something of a special case (even among lawyers), because there is a specific expectation that communications with them are confidential in that they don&#8217;t count as publication, which could invalidate a subsequent patent (I am not a lawyer).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Harman</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10080</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Harman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re post 35, there are two separate issues.   First, unauthorized interception of messages is illegal, and liable to attract civil and criminal proceedings.   But second, as a practical matter, you need to consider the chance of someone improperly intercepting a message and misusing that information, and what you can do if that happens.

So if I send details of my bank account (passwords, etc) to a friend or relation, that information is confidential.   Anyone who intercepts that information and misuses it is liable for damages for any loss I suffer, and probably also for criminal prosecution.   The inmformation is so clearly confidential that the interceptor is liable even if they did not actively intercept - eg if the postman delivered it to them in error and they automatically open their letters without looking to check that they are in fact the addressee.

But as a practical matter, you would be foolish to send that kind of information in say an envelope with &quot;My Bank Details&quot; written in large red letters on the envelope, or to re-use a window envelope to send banknotes.   Your chances of successfully tracking down, prosecuting, and recovering from unauthorized interception would be small, and your insurers are unlikely to be sympathetic.

Incidentally, patent attorneys have obtained formal legal advice that business emails between them and their clients are confidential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re post 35, there are two separate issues.   First, unauthorized interception of messages is illegal, and liable to attract civil and criminal proceedings.   But second, as a practical matter, you need to consider the chance of someone improperly intercepting a message and misusing that information, and what you can do if that happens.</p>
<p>So if I send details of my bank account (passwords, etc) to a friend or relation, that information is confidential.   Anyone who intercepts that information and misuses it is liable for damages for any loss I suffer, and probably also for criminal prosecution.   The inmformation is so clearly confidential that the interceptor is liable even if they did not actively intercept &#8211; eg if the postman delivered it to them in error and they automatically open their letters without looking to check that they are in fact the addressee.</p>
<p>But as a practical matter, you would be foolish to send that kind of information in say an envelope with &#8220;My Bank Details&#8221; written in large red letters on the envelope, or to re-use a window envelope to send banknotes.   Your chances of successfully tracking down, prosecuting, and recovering from unauthorized interception would be small, and your insurers are unlikely to be sympathetic.</p>
<p>Incidentally, patent attorneys have obtained formal legal advice that business emails between them and their clients are confidential.</p>
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		<title>By: Delster</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10033</link>
		<dc:creator>Delster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pseudomonas.... you should be ashamed of yourself for post 42... i thought my jokes were bad!

Anyway - Re the threatening mails etc. I work in Telecomms and there is something called the Telecommunications Act (1984) which basically states that threatening / abusive phones calls are illegal. 

I&#039;m fairly sure that this was amended or another act was passed which extends this to all forms of telecommunications including E-mails.

I do know that e-mails are a non-legally binding form of communication which is why banks still use telex service (timestamped in the network) to deal with fund transferrs etc.

Somebody said before about reporting them to the postmaster@ address. This is the recommended first step in dealing with abuvise mails. You can move it up to the police if you are feeling perticularly beligerant.

So please feel free to post the mails!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pseudomonas&#8230;. you should be ashamed of yourself for post 42&#8230; i thought my jokes were bad!</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; Re the threatening mails etc. I work in Telecomms and there is something called the Telecommunications Act (1984) which basically states that threatening / abusive phones calls are illegal. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly sure that this was amended or another act was passed which extends this to all forms of telecommunications including E-mails.</p>
<p>I do know that e-mails are a non-legally binding form of communication which is why banks still use telex service (timestamped in the network) to deal with fund transferrs etc.</p>
<p>Somebody said before about reporting them to the postmaster@ address. This is the recommended first step in dealing with abuvise mails. You can move it up to the police if you are feeling perticularly beligerant.</p>
<p>So please feel free to post the mails!</p>
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		<title>By: ceec</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10015</link>
		<dc:creator>ceec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are quite a few websites where people have posted hate mail, e.g. here:
http://www.creationtheory.org/HateMail/

It all tends to blur into one after a while (not much imagination or what you might call book learning amongst them, unfortunately), but is fairly amusing for a few mins. 

Obviously it&#039;d be more fun to post nasty mail, threats etc. from named people, e.g. Durham officials, than from loony randoms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are quite a few websites where people have posted hate mail, e.g. here:<br />
<a href="http://www.creationtheory.org/HateMail/" rel="nofollow">www.creationtheory.org/HateMail/</a></p>
<p>It all tends to blur into one after a while (not much imagination or what you might call book learning amongst them, unfortunately), but is fairly amusing for a few mins. </p>
<p>Obviously it&#8217;d be more fun to post nasty mail, threats etc. from named people, e.g. Durham officials, than from loony randoms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MartinH</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10002</link>
		<dc:creator>MartinH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post &#039;em yes, because I think that &#039;private&#039; abuse is shameful. But keep or - better - post the headers.  If we can identify someone from an email then you&#039;re essentially claiming that they wrote a Bad Thing, and you&#039;ll need to be able to prove that what you posted is what you got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post &#8216;em yes, because I think that &#8216;private&#8217; abuse is shameful. But keep or &#8211; better &#8211; post the headers.  If we can identify someone from an email then you&#8217;re essentially claiming that they wrote a Bad Thing, and you&#8217;ll need to be able to prove that what you posted is what you got.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudomonas</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-10000</link>
		<dc:creator>pseudomonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41: they damn with faint praise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41: they damn with faint praise.</p>
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		<title>By: Hacker</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-9997</link>
		<dc:creator>Hacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am intrigued by the threats of violence from Homeopaths.  Do they give you a very very small amount of violence in lieu of a good kicking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am intrigued by the threats of violence from Homeopaths.  Do they give you a very very small amount of violence in lieu of a good kicking?</p>
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		<title>By: EP</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-9996</link>
		<dc:creator>EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just realised coracle&#039;s comment wasn&#039;t aimed at me! Still, there&#039;s some good reading mentioned above for anyone who&#039;s interested. And when I was plugging the tresearch findings I certainly didn&#039;t send details to sites like this one or do anything else underhand!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just realised coracle&#8217;s comment wasn&#8217;t aimed at me! Still, there&#8217;s some good reading mentioned above for anyone who&#8217;s interested. And when I was plugging the tresearch findings I certainly didn&#8217;t send details to sites like this one or do anything else underhand!</p>
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		<title>By: EP</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-9994</link>
		<dc:creator>EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coracle (great username!), I actually love my job- I work in &quot;fluffy&quot; PR, mainly lifestyle stuff- but I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d be happy working for a medical PR firm. I&#039;ve done one science PR project, helping a neuroscience professor plug his textbook and research findings, and that was fine  but there&#039;s a lot of  scary stuff out there. I&#039;m told there&#039;s a real shortage of PRs with life science degrees and that I could use my degree and experience to make a lot of money working in &quot;medical education&quot; (MedEd- plugging drugs to doctors) but I&#039;ve spoken to people working on things like  infant death crisis management and burying news of drug controversies, and for some reason their stories put me off. I think I&#039;ll stick to the fluffy stuff for now!

I&#039;d recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Sludge-Good-You-Relations/dp/1567510604
along with George Orwell&#039;s essay Why I Write and Piers Morgan&#039;s diaries. I&#039;m passionate about the media but I think it&#039;s important to know just how powerful it is and how some people abuse that power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coracle (great username!), I actually love my job- I work in &#8220;fluffy&#8221; PR, mainly lifestyle stuff- but I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d be happy working for a medical PR firm. I&#8217;ve done one science PR project, helping a neuroscience professor plug his textbook and research findings, and that was fine  but there&#8217;s a lot of  scary stuff out there. I&#8217;m told there&#8217;s a real shortage of PRs with life science degrees and that I could use my degree and experience to make a lot of money working in &#8220;medical education&#8221; (MedEd- plugging drugs to doctors) but I&#8217;ve spoken to people working on things like  infant death crisis management and burying news of drug controversies, and for some reason their stories put me off. I think I&#8217;ll stick to the fluffy stuff for now!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend this book:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Sludge-Good-You-Relations/dp/1567510604" rel="nofollow">www.amazon.com/Toxic-Sludge-Good-You-Relations/dp/1567510604</a><br />
along with George Orwell&#8217;s essay Why I Write and Piers Morgan&#8217;s diaries. I&#8217;m passionate about the media but I think it&#8217;s important to know just how powerful it is and how some people abuse that power.</p>
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		<title>By: SciencePunk</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/01/the-truth-about-nutritionists/comment-page-1/#comment-9991</link>
		<dc:creator>SciencePunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I find hatemail so much more rewarding than fanmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find hatemail so much more rewarding than fanmail.</p>
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