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	<title>Comments on: Patrick Holford &#8211; &#8220;Food Is Better Than Medicine&#8221; South Africa Tour Blighted By HIV Claim</title>
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		<title>By: diudiu</title>
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		<title>By: carl sanderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lurkinggherkin said,

February 28, 2007 at 11:07 am

I wonder what Patrick Holford will have to say about this study:

uk.news.yahoo.com/28022007/397/vitamins-increase-risk-death-0.html

Have you seen this study yet, Ben? Just wondered what your take on it was.&quot;

I tell you what, some people are idiots.  That report says vitamin C does not increase longevity, that has no bearing on whether or not it helps HIV patients.  Antibiotics regularly taken to not increase longevity you imbocile but taken at the right time with the right dosage they kill bacterium.  Point made, this man was a lapdog for Ben Goldacre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lurkinggherkin said,</p>
<p>February 28, 2007 at 11:07 am</p>
<p>I wonder what Patrick Holford will have to say about this study:</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28022007/397/vitamins-increase-risk-death-0.html" title="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28022007/397/vitamins-increase-risk-death-0.html" target="_blank">uk.news.yahoo.com/28022007/397/vitamins-increase-risk-death-0.html</a></p>
<p>Have you seen this study yet, Ben? Just wondered what your take on it was.&#8221;</p>
<p>I tell you what, some people are idiots.  That report says vitamin C does not increase longevity, that has no bearing on whether or not it helps HIV patients.  Antibiotics regularly taken to not increase longevity you imbocile but taken at the right time with the right dosage they kill bacterium.  Point made, this man was a lapdog for Ben Goldacre.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11256</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming Skeptic Bingo (American spelling) - is there an online list of these people and what&#039;s individually wrong with them?  I need it for an argument.

What to do in the Bad Science column - got anything on supermarket petrol? 

 I myself, a mere kibitzer, thought &quot;A-ha!&quot; when a fuel company named &quot;Greenergy&quot; was fingered, forgetting that a cuddly name doesn&#039;t mean that their stuff isn&#039;t made by mixing conflict oil with the mashed brains of baby seals and other marine mammals.  Nevertheless, being even a little genuinely green means doing some things differently to common practice, and doing things differently can lead to unique mistakes.  Too much ethanol?  But now whatever happened seems to be a problem that any supplier could have suffered.  Along the way we must have had lots of Bad Science.  On the good side, I hope, one of the latest BBC News Online story pages had a neat little box explaining silicon and silicone, which maybe should just be renamed - &quot;vowellised silicon product&quot; perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming Skeptic Bingo (American spelling) &#8211; is there an online list of these people and what&#8217;s individually wrong with them?  I need it for an argument.</p>
<p>What to do in the Bad Science column &#8211; got anything on supermarket petrol? </p>
<p> I myself, a mere kibitzer, thought &#8220;A-ha!&#8221; when a fuel company named &#8220;Greenergy&#8221; was fingered, forgetting that a cuddly name doesn&#8217;t mean that their stuff isn&#8217;t made by mixing conflict oil with the mashed brains of baby seals and other marine mammals.  Nevertheless, being even a little genuinely green means doing some things differently to common practice, and doing things differently can lead to unique mistakes.  Too much ethanol?  But now whatever happened seems to be a problem that any supplier could have suffered.  Along the way we must have had lots of Bad Science.  On the good side, I hope, one of the latest BBC News Online story pages had a neat little box explaining silicon and silicone, which maybe should just be renamed &#8211; &#8220;vowellised silicon product&#8221; perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: pseudomonas</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11227</link>
		<dc:creator>pseudomonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on giving nutritionists a rest for a bit. If I can have a vote on the matter, I&#039;d really like to see some more of you taking apart bad stats. Your stuff on the Prosecutor&#039;s Fallacy  was great, and the article about detecting publication bias - there&#039;s surely lots more out there.

By the way, your cat got a passing mention on yesterday&#039;s (Friday&#039;s) You &amp; Yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on giving nutritionists a rest for a bit. If I can have a vote on the matter, I&#8217;d really like to see some more of you taking apart bad stats. Your stuff on the Prosecutor&#8217;s Fallacy  was great, and the article about detecting publication bias &#8211; there&#8217;s surely lots more out there.</p>
<p>By the way, your cat got a passing mention on yesterday&#8217;s (Friday&#8217;s) You &amp; Yours.</p>
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		<title>By: FlammableFlower</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11216</link>
		<dc:creator>FlammableFlower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to go back to Holford et al. but... what is it about these people, that they can&#039;t raise their eyes above the - &quot;if X is good for you (or more correctly, a lack of X is bad for you) then  taking huge quantities of X must be really, really good&quot; hypothesis?

Take selenium - we need it, although deficiency in it is fairly rare, the US recommended intake is 55 ug a day, but it&#039;s toxic at over 400 ug. So why are most selenium supplements at 100 to 200 ug levels? Pop too many, or combine with a diet high in selenium anyway (by eating a perfectly normal healthy diet) and you can cross the line or at least get not pleasantly close. Just spotted, one ounce of GMcK&#039;s favourite Brazil Nuts takes you well over the limit at 544 ug/ounce (apologies for mixing units). To quote the NIH: Symptoms of selenosis include gastrointestinal upsets, hair loss, white blotchy nails, garlic breath odor, fatigue, irritability, and mild nerve damage. Selenium toxicity is rare in the U.S. The few reported cases have been associated with industrial accidents and a manufacturing error that led to an excessively high dose of selenium in a supplement.

 Likewise with chromium, yes we need it, but in stupendously, vanishingly small amounts, &#039;cos it is very very toxic at not very high levels...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to go back to Holford et al. but&#8230; what is it about these people, that they can&#8217;t raise their eyes above the &#8211; &#8220;if X is good for you (or more correctly, a lack of X is bad for you) then  taking huge quantities of X must be really, really good&#8221; hypothesis?</p>
<p>Take selenium &#8211; we need it, although deficiency in it is fairly rare, the US recommended intake is 55 ug a day, but it&#8217;s toxic at over 400 ug. So why are most selenium supplements at 100 to 200 ug levels? Pop too many, or combine with a diet high in selenium anyway (by eating a perfectly normal healthy diet) and you can cross the line or at least get not pleasantly close. Just spotted, one ounce of GMcK&#8217;s favourite Brazil Nuts takes you well over the limit at 544 ug/ounce (apologies for mixing units). To quote the NIH: Symptoms of selenosis include gastrointestinal upsets, hair loss, white blotchy nails, garlic breath odor, fatigue, irritability, and mild nerve damage. Selenium toxicity is rare in the U.S. The few reported cases have been associated with industrial accidents and a manufacturing error that led to an excessively high dose of selenium in a supplement.</p>
<p> Likewise with chromium, yes we need it, but in stupendously, vanishingly small amounts, &#8216;cos it is very very toxic at not very high levels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lurkinggherkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurkinggherkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #57 - Climate change denial may be a good one to go for.  But I can understand why Ben might be a bit wary here.  Thing is that at the moment there are a lot of media voices who are pro-action on climate change, albeit grudgingly in some cases.  So the public are probably better informed on this than they are on nutrition where a lot of misinformation has become enshrined as popular &#039;knowledge&#039;.  Also climatology probably isn&#039;t Ben&#039;s field so he has to tread more carefully.

However, if he is so inclined, a good target will present itself next week on Thursday, on Channel 4 - Martin Durkin&#039;s documentary &#039;The Great Global Warming Swindle&#039;.  Where, I daresay, arguments against anthopogenic global warming that were discredited several years ago will be trundled out and presented as important new evidence that public attention must be drawn to.

This is the same Martin Durkin who made a documentary in 1999 about silicone implants being preventative factors against breast cancer.  And who made a documentary series in 1997 attacking environmentalists which Channel 4 later had to issue an apology over because of extensive use of selective editing to misrepresent the views of those interviewed.

Well, if nothing else this documentary will afford us an excellent chance to play &#039;Global Warming Skeptic Bingo!&#039;

http://timlambert.org/2005/04/16</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #57 &#8211; Climate change denial may be a good one to go for.  But I can understand why Ben might be a bit wary here.  Thing is that at the moment there are a lot of media voices who are pro-action on climate change, albeit grudgingly in some cases.  So the public are probably better informed on this than they are on nutrition where a lot of misinformation has become enshrined as popular &#8216;knowledge&#8217;.  Also climatology probably isn&#8217;t Ben&#8217;s field so he has to tread more carefully.</p>
<p>However, if he is so inclined, a good target will present itself next week on Thursday, on Channel 4 &#8211; Martin Durkin&#8217;s documentary &#8216;The Great Global Warming Swindle&#8217;.  Where, I daresay, arguments against anthopogenic global warming that were discredited several years ago will be trundled out and presented as important new evidence that public attention must be drawn to.</p>
<p>This is the same Martin Durkin who made a documentary in 1999 about silicone implants being preventative factors against breast cancer.  And who made a documentary series in 1997 attacking environmentalists which Channel 4 later had to issue an apology over because of extensive use of selective editing to misrepresent the views of those interviewed.</p>
<p>Well, if nothing else this documentary will afford us an excellent chance to play &#8216;Global Warming Skeptic Bingo!&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://timlambert.org/2005/04/16" rel="nofollow">http://timlambert.org/2005/04/16</a></p>
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		<title>By: manigen</title>
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		<dc:creator>manigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t get the double page spread, then I&#039;m going to have to go with the general consensus and agree you should switch topics, at least for a week. After all, it&#039;s not like there aren&#039;t plenty of others scrutinizing Holford at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t get the double page spread, then I&#8217;m going to have to go with the general consensus and agree you should switch topics, at least for a week. After all, it&#8217;s not like there aren&#8217;t plenty of others scrutinizing Holford at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: wewillfixit</title>
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		<dc:creator>wewillfixit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would err towards spacing out the nutritionist stuff.  When there is so much bad science in the media, if you focus on one aspect a lot of the time it starts to look personal.  So I would give Holford a rest for a couple of weeks - also gives him a chance to talk more nonsense in the meantime for us to laugh at and you to include next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would err towards spacing out the nutritionist stuff.  When there is so much bad science in the media, if you focus on one aspect a lot of the time it starts to look personal.  So I would give Holford a rest for a couple of weeks &#8211; also gives him a chance to talk more nonsense in the meantime for us to laugh at and you to include next time.</p>
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		<title>By: apothecary</title>
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		<dc:creator>apothecary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with gruff @57 - IMVHO its best to let cr*ppy &quot;nutritionists&quot; alone for a bit and go for something else, otherwise you risk looking like a monomaniac with a personal grudge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with gruff @57 &#8211; IMVHO its best to let cr*ppy &#8220;nutritionists&#8221; alone for a bit and go for something else, otherwise you risk looking like a monomaniac with a personal grudge</p>
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		<title>By: Teek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Patrick Holford BSc, Dip ION, FBant is a leading light in new approaches to health and nutrition. He is widely regarded as Britainâ€™s best-selling author and leading spokesman on nutrition, food, environmental and health issues, hence being frequently quoted almost weekly in national newspapers from the Daily Mail to the Guardian.&quot;

quoted in the Grauniad...?! yes he is, quoted as being a misguided fraudster who peddles vit C as a cure for HIV/AIDS when he has the scantest of supporting &#039;evidence&#039;. that&#039;s like saying george bush is quoted daily in the Iraq Times - as the devil incarnate no doubt - but he is quoted nontheless...!

re # 26:

It could raise your childâ€™s IQ by seven points in six months, slash most childrenâ€™s hyperactivity and concentration problems in a month and, if widely adopted, solve South Africaâ€™s skills crisis, reverse the crime wave, cut many chronic illnesses in half â€” and even energise the economy.

[Ehâ€¦?! Reallyâ€¦?!]

And all it will take is changing the contents of your childâ€™s school lunch box.

This is the stunning claim world- renowned nutritionist and best selling author Professor Patrick Holford will make on a seminar tour to South Africa.

Armed with a â€œdramaticâ€ series of new studies on nutrition and the brain, Holford, head of the UKâ€™s Food for the Brain charity, said he would seek to â€œspark a revolution for South Africaâ€™s school kidsâ€ .

Pupils at Crawford and St Stithians primary schools were given lunch box menu options from baby carrots, tuna and slow sugar-release, â€œlow-GI [Glycaemic Index] breadâ€ to apple quarters dunked in peanut butter.

[newsflash â€“ good food is good for you. Stunning claimâ€¦]

Holford hit the headlines in the UK last month for dramatically turning around the results of two schools by educating parents on healthy cooking, changing kidsâ€™ lunches, and adding two cheap pills to each lunch, daily.

[noooâ€¦. Donâ€™t go thereâ€¦]

In the worldâ€™s first combined trial of diet, vitamins and â€œessential fatsâ€ on school kids, the eleventh worst-performing school in Britain found that even â€œyob behaviourâ€ had been significantly cut in just two weeks.

[trialâ€¦? Feck offâ€¦ significantâ€¦? Show me the Data Jerry McVitaminâ€¦]

In an independent study, children given fish-oil supplements gained nine months of reading ability in three months, while others showed a nine point increase in IQ after taking a daily multivitamin.

[again, dataâ€¦? Oh  right, goto equazen.com/secret_corporate_results_not_peer_reviewd/htm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Patrick Holford BSc, Dip ION, FBant is a leading light in new approaches to health and nutrition. He is widely regarded as Britainâ€™s best-selling author and leading spokesman on nutrition, food, environmental and health issues, hence being frequently quoted almost weekly in national newspapers from the Daily Mail to the Guardian.&#8221;</p>
<p>quoted in the Grauniad&#8230;?! yes he is, quoted as being a misguided fraudster who peddles vit C as a cure for HIV/AIDS when he has the scantest of supporting &#8216;evidence&#8217;. that&#8217;s like saying george bush is quoted daily in the Iraq Times &#8211; as the devil incarnate no doubt &#8211; but he is quoted nontheless&#8230;!</p>
<p>re # 26:</p>
<p>It could raise your childâ€™s IQ by seven points in six months, slash most childrenâ€™s hyperactivity and concentration problems in a month and, if widely adopted, solve South Africaâ€™s skills crisis, reverse the crime wave, cut many chronic illnesses in half â€” and even energise the economy.</p>
<p>[Ehâ€¦?! Reallyâ€¦?!]</p>
<p>And all it will take is changing the contents of your childâ€™s school lunch box.</p>
<p>This is the stunning claim world- renowned nutritionist and best selling author Professor Patrick Holford will make on a seminar tour to South Africa.</p>
<p>Armed with a â€œdramaticâ€ series of new studies on nutrition and the brain, Holford, head of the UKâ€™s Food for the Brain charity, said he would seek to â€œspark a revolution for South Africaâ€™s school kidsâ€ .</p>
<p>Pupils at Crawford and St Stithians primary schools were given lunch box menu options from baby carrots, tuna and slow sugar-release, â€œlow-GI [Glycaemic Index] breadâ€ to apple quarters dunked in peanut butter.</p>
<p>[newsflash â€“ good food is good for you. Stunning claimâ€¦]</p>
<p>Holford hit the headlines in the UK last month for dramatically turning around the results of two schools by educating parents on healthy cooking, changing kidsâ€™ lunches, and adding two cheap pills to each lunch, daily.</p>
<p>[noooâ€¦. Donâ€™t go thereâ€¦]</p>
<p>In the worldâ€™s first combined trial of diet, vitamins and â€œessential fatsâ€ on school kids, the eleventh worst-performing school in Britain found that even â€œyob behaviourâ€ had been significantly cut in just two weeks.</p>
<p>[trialâ€¦? Feck offâ€¦ significantâ€¦? Show me the Data Jerry McVitaminâ€¦]</p>
<p>In an independent study, children given fish-oil supplements gained nine months of reading ability in three months, while others showed a nine point increase in IQ after taking a daily multivitamin.</p>
<p>[again, dataâ€¦? Oh  right, goto <a href="http://equazen.com/secret_corporate_results_not_peer_reviewd/htm" title="http://equazen.com/secret_corporate_results_not_peer_reviewd/htm" target="_blank">equazen.com/secret_corporate_results_not_peer_reviewd/htm</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: gruff</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11201</link>
		<dc:creator>gruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I would have to agree that Bad Science, fantastic read though it is, is becoming something of a nutritionist (Mc)witchhunt. A few morsels for us physical scientists wouldn&#039;t go amiss once in a while. Climate change denial has most of the requisite characteristics, I would think (imbalances between the media profile and scientific credibility of those taking part, shady corporate backers, deliberate obsfuscation of important facts, a public that is confused, or in some cases, made hostile - in the US, at least - to what is a broad scientific consensus, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I would have to agree that Bad Science, fantastic read though it is, is becoming something of a nutritionist (Mc)witchhunt. A few morsels for us physical scientists wouldn&#8217;t go amiss once in a while. Climate change denial has most of the requisite characteristics, I would think (imbalances between the media profile and scientific credibility of those taking part, shady corporate backers, deliberate obsfuscation of important facts, a public that is confused, or in some cases, made hostile &#8211; in the US, at least &#8211; to what is a broad scientific consensus, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: gruff</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11200</link>
		<dc:creator>gruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ceec @ 51

Looked up the Lancet article in question (bored at work). According to my search of the pdf, there are 0 instances of the word &#039;holford&#039;. So any contribution he made went unacknowledged (I know that feeling...)</description>
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<p>Looked up the Lancet article in question (bored at work). According to my search of the pdf, there are 0 instances of the word &#8216;holford&#8217;. So any contribution he made went unacknowledged (I know that feeling&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isnt there a danger of it being a bit too much nutritionist action? i think youre right that they are the primary exponents of bad science in popular fora at the moment, as the most popular new age therapy, and the one that is most cloaked in the authority of science, but i have got quite a good story on GM quackery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isnt there a danger of it being a bit too much nutritionist action? i think youre right that they are the primary exponents of bad science in popular fora at the moment, as the most popular new age therapy, and the one that is most cloaked in the authority of science, but i have got quite a good story on GM quackery.</p>
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		<title>By: jdc325</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11193</link>
		<dc:creator>jdc325</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>manigen is right. There&#039;s no other option. My vote&#039;s for a double page spread of BS every Saturday morning. And don&#039;t forget to ask for a pay rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>manigen is right. There&#8217;s no other option. My vote&#8217;s for a double page spread of BS every Saturday morning. And don&#8217;t forget to ask for a pay rise.</p>
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		<title>By: manigen</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11191</link>
		<dc:creator>manigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly the only answer is for the Guardian to give you more space so you can do two subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the only answer is for the Guardian to give you more space so you can do two subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-2/#comment-11189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i be bothered to write about this joker again this week? i&#039;ve got plenty of other stuff, but the south africa storm combined with his farcical &quot;rebuttals&quot; of other news stories does make for fairly amusing copy. upside: zero tolerance policy for ludicrous claims, esp on AIDS, and more and more of his bizarre claims are coming to light. downside: bit repetitive. i have to say, i thought of him as a bit of a sideshow at first, but the way he&#039;s escalated this from one tiny foolish sentence in one of his books to this monster with his wikipedia antics, demanding letters in the guardian promoting and reasserting his foolish HIV/vitamins claims, etc has produced a huge amount of material and interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i be bothered to write about this joker again this week? i&#8217;ve got plenty of other stuff, but the south africa storm combined with his farcical &#8220;rebuttals&#8221; of other news stories does make for fairly amusing copy. upside: zero tolerance policy for ludicrous claims, esp on AIDS, and more and more of his bizarre claims are coming to light. downside: bit repetitive. i have to say, i thought of him as a bit of a sideshow at first, but the way he&#8217;s escalated this from one tiny foolish sentence in one of his books to this monster with his wikipedia antics, demanding letters in the guardian promoting and reasserting his foolish HIV/vitamins claims, etc has produced a huge amount of material and interest.</p>
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		<title>By: ceec</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks ACH but NB Simongates found what must be the correct ref (#46 - Benton and Roberts).

Given that Holford is not an author, I suppose he might be mentioned in the acknowledgments if it had anything to do with him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ACH but NB Simongates found what must be the correct ref (#46 &#8211; Benton and Roberts).</p>
<p>Given that Holford is not an author, I suppose he might be mentioned in the acknowledgments if it had anything to do with him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ACH</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-1/#comment-11186</link>
		<dc:creator>ACH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ceec @ 44,

A pubmed search on (Holford[Auth]) AND (&quot;Lancet&quot;[Jour]) yields &quot;no details found&quot; so I think the naswer is a definite &quot;no&quot;.</description>
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<p>A pubmed search on (Holford[Auth]) AND (&#8220;Lancet&#8221;[Jour]) yields &#8220;no details found&#8221; so I think the naswer is a definite &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: evidencebasedeating</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-1/#comment-11183</link>
		<dc:creator>evidencebasedeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fairly representative of the accuracy of the ION genre.....</description>
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		<title>By: simongates</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/patrick-holford-food-is-better-than-medicine-south-africa-tour/comment-page-1/#comment-11182</link>
		<dc:creator>simongates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the ion.ac.uk page about Optimum Nutrition magazine:

&quot;Next Issue - 30 February 2007&quot;

So I guess we&#039;ll be waiting a long long time for that one.  Shame, it looks interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the ion.ac.uk page about Optimum Nutrition magazine:</p>
<p>&#8220;Next Issue &#8211; 30 February 2007&#8243;</p>
<p>So I guess we&#8217;ll be waiting a long long time for that one.  Shame, it looks interesting.</p>
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