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	<title>Comments on: The Internal Examiner</title>
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		<title>By: diudiu</title>
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		<dc:creator>diudiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: indaba</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10580</link>
		<dc:creator>indaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I&#039;m new here and came in through the great article on this woman on the Guardian website. I have to say that I find her grotesque and her views alarming. I also detest her use of the &quot;Dr.&quot; title for her spurious PhD unforgiveable as it can mislead certain people into thinking that she knows what she is talking about. If I had my way she would be banned from any television appeareances and if possible from ever talking to anyone again! 
I did some digging for myself into that so-called PhD and found this gem from her website: 

&quot;The College [Clayton] is now accredited by the State of Alabama Department of Post-Secondary Education, a government body.&quot;


errr sorry but no it isn&#039;t. The relevant Alabama website only says that the colelge is licensed (their spelling) and that 

&quot;The license is issued to operate in the State of Alabama AND IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ACCREDITATION&quot; (their caps).

Even clayton college doesn&#039;t say that the State of Alabama Department of Post-Secondary Education has accredited them Only that:

&quot;Clayton College is accredited by the American Association of Drugless Practitioners and the American Naturopathic Medical Accreditation Board. These are private, professional associations that offer accreditation in naturopathy and other areas of natural health. Both are private accrediting associations designed to meet the needs of nonâ€“traditional education and are not affiliated with any government agency.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t that mean she&#039;s lying on her website? If so is there anything we can do about it to get this terrible woman out for the spotlight?

Thanks

Adrian PhD (That&#039;s a real one, worked for with hard work, study, sleepless nights, worry and coffee. And from a real university. Oh yes and in a real subject (Astronomy))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I&#8217;m new here and came in through the great article on this woman on the Guardian website. I have to say that I find her grotesque and her views alarming. I also detest her use of the &#8220;Dr.&#8221; title for her spurious PhD unforgiveable as it can mislead certain people into thinking that she knows what she is talking about. If I had my way she would be banned from any television appeareances and if possible from ever talking to anyone again!<br />
I did some digging for myself into that so-called PhD and found this gem from her website: </p>
<p>&#8220;The College [Clayton] is now accredited by the State of Alabama Department of Post-Secondary Education, a government body.&#8221;</p>
<p>errr sorry but no it isn&#8217;t. The relevant Alabama website only says that the colelge is licensed (their spelling) and that </p>
<p>&#8220;The license is issued to operate in the State of Alabama AND IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ACCREDITATION&#8221; (their caps).</p>
<p>Even clayton college doesn&#8217;t say that the State of Alabama Department of Post-Secondary Education has accredited them Only that:</p>
<p>&#8220;Clayton College is accredited by the American Association of Drugless Practitioners and the American Naturopathic Medical Accreditation Board. These are private, professional associations that offer accreditation in naturopathy and other areas of natural health. Both are private accrediting associations designed to meet the needs of nonâ€“traditional education and are not affiliated with any government agency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that mean she&#8217;s lying on her website? If so is there anything we can do about it to get this terrible woman out for the spotlight?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Adrian PhD (That&#8217;s a real one, worked for with hard work, study, sleepless nights, worry and coffee. And from a real university. Oh yes and in a real subject (Astronomy))</p>
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		<title>By: motmot</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>motmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard, what&#039;s your website (post 51)? The page linked to from Google is redacted to the point of uselessness: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=973. The complainant, the subject, their lawyers and the website address have all been removed. And you can&#039;t even leave comments! You&#039;ll be glad to know that it&#039;s still number two (!) result when searching on Yahoo, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard, what&#8217;s your website (post 51)? The page linked to from Google is redacted to the point of uselessness: <a href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=973" rel="nofollow">http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=973</a>. The complainant, the subject, their lawyers and the website address have all been removed. And you can&#8217;t even leave comments! You&#8217;ll be glad to know that it&#8217;s still number two (!) result when searching on Yahoo, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10373</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I thought that the Dutch were so obsessed that they had little shelves in their toilets so that they could check the state of their business before flushing it away&quot;

- ditto the Germans  - or at least so I used to think. But after living with a German I have now been informed that this is nothing to do with inspection but is instead to ensure that letting go (as it were) does not produce &quot;splashback&quot; onto one&#039;s rear end. 

The ability to inspect is simply an added bonus, although it could explain why TAPL is looking to these continental markets...

BTW , Aust Jr. (aged 32 months) is totally obsessed with the Scrubs song about Ms McKeith&#039;s favorite &quot;diagnostic&quot; indicator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqhW54RBQA

- we&#039;re hoping it&#039;s just a  phase she&#039;&#039;ll grow out of.

- Aust Jr, I mean.  I think it&#039;s too late for Gillian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I thought that the Dutch were so obsessed that they had little shelves in their toilets so that they could check the state of their business before flushing it away&#8221;</p>
<p>- ditto the Germans  &#8211; or at least so I used to think. But after living with a German I have now been informed that this is nothing to do with inspection but is instead to ensure that letting go (as it were) does not produce &#8220;splashback&#8221; onto one&#8217;s rear end. </p>
<p>The ability to inspect is simply an added bonus, although it could explain why TAPL is looking to these continental markets&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW , Aust Jr. (aged 32 months) is totally obsessed with the Scrubs song about Ms McKeith&#8217;s favorite &#8220;diagnostic&#8221; indicator:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqhW54RBQA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqhW54RBQA</a></p>
<p>- we&#8217;re hoping it&#8217;s just a  phase she&#8221;ll grow out of.</p>
<p>- Aust Jr, I mean.  I think it&#8217;s too late for Gillian.</p>
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		<title>By: Danivon</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10369</link>
		<dc:creator>Danivon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that the Dutch were so obsessed that they had little shelves in their toilets so that they could check the state of their business before flushing it away. 

We just like saying words like &#039;poo&#039;, &#039;bum&#039; and &#039;wee&#039;. Before collapsing in laughter like a 5 year old...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that the Dutch were so obsessed that they had little shelves in their toilets so that they could check the state of their business before flushing it away. </p>
<p>We just like saying words like &#8216;poo&#8217;, &#8216;bum&#8217; and &#8216;wee&#8217;. Before collapsing in laughter like a 5 year old&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: raygirvan</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10336</link>
		<dc:creator>raygirvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Is it just a British thing, or more generally Anglo-Saxon to be obsessed with bowel function?

Hard to say.  Purgatives have been big in the pharmacopoeias of many ancient cultures too: Egypt, Rome, China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Is it just a British thing, or more generally Anglo-Saxon to be obsessed with bowel function?</p>
<p>Hard to say.  Purgatives have been big in the pharmacopoeias of many ancient cultures too: Egypt, Rome, China.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10334</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we Brits are very keen on &quot;staying regular&quot;.

Mrs Dr Aust tells me that when she arrived in the UK from Germany to work in hospital she was given an extensive list of picturesque English-language euphemisms that the patients might use to convey information about their bowels (among other things).

A favourite related line, taken from Michael O&#039;Donnell&#039;s excellent &quot;Medicine&#039;s Strangest Cases&quot;:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Medicines-Strangest-Cases-Michael-ODonnell/dp/1861055633/sr=1-3/qid=1171038288/ref=sr_1_3/026-2462044-4179618?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books

- recalls the 60s seaside landlady who would say grace as follows:

&quot;For what we are about to receive, may it pass through us peacefully&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we Brits are very keen on &#8220;staying regular&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mrs Dr Aust tells me that when she arrived in the UK from Germany to work in hospital she was given an extensive list of picturesque English-language euphemisms that the patients might use to convey information about their bowels (among other things).</p>
<p>A favourite related line, taken from Michael O&#8217;Donnell&#8217;s excellent &#8220;Medicine&#8217;s Strangest Cases&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Medicines-Strangest-Cases-Michael-ODonnell/dp/1861055633/sr=1-3/qid=1171038288/ref=sr_1_3/026-2462044-4179618?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Medicines-Strangest-Cases-Michael-ODonnell/dp/1861055633/sr=1-3/qid=1171038288/ref=sr_1_3/026-2462044-4179618?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</a></p>
<p>- recalls the 60s seaside landlady who would say grace as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;For what we are about to receive, may it pass through us peacefully&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: apothecary</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10332</link>
		<dc:creator>apothecary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just a British thing, or more generally Anglo-Saxon to be obsessed with bowel function?  Lots of patent meds from years ago to the present have a purgative effect.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a sociological treatise to be written here (if it hasn&#039;t been already) linking TAPL, colonic irrigation, and such 19th Century delights as Carter&#039;s Little Liver Pills, ENO&#039;s Fruit Salts and, of course, Beecham&#039;s Pills.

Me, I remember having to learn how to tell the difference between two different species of senna by the shape of the pods (I am not that ancient an apothecary), thus perfectly equipping me for a career in modern pharmacy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just a British thing, or more generally Anglo-Saxon to be obsessed with bowel function?  Lots of patent meds from years ago to the present have a purgative effect.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a sociological treatise to be written here (if it hasn&#8217;t been already) linking TAPL, colonic irrigation, and such 19th Century delights as Carter&#8217;s Little Liver Pills, ENO&#8217;s Fruit Salts and, of course, Beecham&#8217;s Pills.</p>
<p>Me, I remember having to learn how to tell the difference between two different species of senna by the shape of the pods (I am not that ancient an apothecary), thus perfectly equipping me for a career in modern pharmacy</p>
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		<title>By: raygirvan</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10331</link>
		<dc:creator>raygirvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; ... Hereâ€™s an inspiring poem from their homepage:

Even the poetry seems to have a bowel-obsessed subtext:

&lt;i&gt;there is hesitancy,
always ineffectiveness.

the moment one definitely commits oneself,
then Providence moves too.

A whole stream of events
issues from the decision&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8230; Hereâ€™s an inspiring poem from their homepage:</p>
<p>Even the poetry seems to have a bowel-obsessed subtext:</p>
<p><i>there is hesitancy,<br />
always ineffectiveness.</p>
<p>the moment one definitely commits oneself,<br />
then Providence moves too.</p>
<p>A whole stream of events<br />
issues from the decision</i></p>
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		<title>By: abahachi</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10329</link>
		<dc:creator>abahachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #36 on the Bologna Process - and apologies for tedious pedantry, but part of my job is chairing my university&#039;s working group on this...

The spirit of creating a European Higher Education Area by 2010 (fat chance) has been &#039;tuning&#039; rather than &#039;harmonisation&#039;. This is very clearly the case with discussions on the doctoral level, which have only really got started in the last couple of years; lots of emphasis on the need to avoid excessive regulation, which translates as universities - especially the leading research universities in France, Germany, Scandinavia - being very protective of their own practices and reputation. There may be some movement towards adopting common principles, but it&#039;s pretty clear that universities will insist on retaining the right to control the examination and award of their own qualifications.

This does mean that they&#039;re *very* protective about who should have the right to award PhDs at all (I wonder if this is one of the reasons behind the German law referred to above) - which is why all the nutters get theirs from dodgy &#039;colleges&#039; in the US. Given that one of the aims of the process is to improve the mutual recognition of qualifications across Europe, this ought to imply the mutual rejection of illegitimate qualifications as well... I wouldn&#039;t bother the Bologna Promotors with this - their main task is to try to persuade UK universities to take any of these issues seriously - but if I get a chance I&#039;ll try the idea out next time I&#039;m in a suitable meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #36 on the Bologna Process &#8211; and apologies for tedious pedantry, but part of my job is chairing my university&#8217;s working group on this&#8230;</p>
<p>The spirit of creating a European Higher Education Area by 2010 (fat chance) has been &#8216;tuning&#8217; rather than &#8216;harmonisation&#8217;. This is very clearly the case with discussions on the doctoral level, which have only really got started in the last couple of years; lots of emphasis on the need to avoid excessive regulation, which translates as universities &#8211; especially the leading research universities in France, Germany, Scandinavia &#8211; being very protective of their own practices and reputation. There may be some movement towards adopting common principles, but it&#8217;s pretty clear that universities will insist on retaining the right to control the examination and award of their own qualifications.</p>
<p>This does mean that they&#8217;re *very* protective about who should have the right to award PhDs at all (I wonder if this is one of the reasons behind the German law referred to above) &#8211; which is why all the nutters get theirs from dodgy &#8216;colleges&#8217; in the US. Given that one of the aims of the process is to improve the mutual recognition of qualifications across Europe, this ought to imply the mutual rejection of illegitimate qualifications as well&#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t bother the Bologna Promotors with this &#8211; their main task is to try to persuade UK universities to take any of these issues seriously &#8211; but if I get a chance I&#8217;ll try the idea out next time I&#8217;m in a suitable meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.badscience.net/?p=359#comment-10310

&quot;Barnacle Bill: not sure itâ€™s entirely ethical to post a private correspondence on a public forum without the consent of the other party. Whatever you may think of them.&quot;


It&#039;s legal and, in my view, ethical.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Barnacle Bill: not sure itâ€™s entirely ethical to post a private correspondence on a public forum without the consent of the other party. Whatever you may think of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s legal and, in my view, ethical.</p>
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		<title>By: livferrari</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10326</link>
		<dc:creator>livferrari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms McKeith is not the only one whose PhD thesis seems very hard to get hold of. 

Have you, Ben, or anyone else ever read any of Paul McKenna&#039;s PhD theses?  I know he sued the Mirror for calling the first one &#039;bogus&#039;.  Ben told me that the second one was in &#039;business studies&#039; and from a reputable institution, allegedly.  Do you think I could get a copy of it from my university interlibrary loan system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms McKeith is not the only one whose PhD thesis seems very hard to get hold of. </p>
<p>Have you, Ben, or anyone else ever read any of Paul McKenna&#8217;s PhD theses?  I know he sued the Mirror for calling the first one &#8216;bogus&#8217;.  Ben told me that the second one was in &#8216;business studies&#8217; and from a reputable institution, allegedly.  Do you think I could get a copy of it from my university interlibrary loan system?</p>
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		<title>By: glutam9</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10325</link>
		<dc:creator>glutam9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The length of a thesis was never the measure we were interested in when i was studying. Everyone was completely obsessed with the length of time the viva took. 

under 3 hours - you must have been good

3-4 hours - normalish.

over 5  hours - having a bad time, we&#039;ll leave a note and they can cacth us up in the pub later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The length of a thesis was never the measure we were interested in when i was studying. Everyone was completely obsessed with the length of time the viva took. </p>
<p>under 3 hours &#8211; you must have been good</p>
<p>3-4 hours &#8211; normalish.</p>
<p>over 5  hours &#8211; having a bad time, we&#8217;ll leave a note and they can cacth us up in the pub later.</p>
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		<title>By: PubPhilosophy</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10324</link>
		<dc:creator>PubPhilosophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 46

Mr Harman, do you have a ref (online preferably) for the Littlewood story? Someone I know is considering a maths PhD and would be amused by it, but also I&#039;m interested to see what he came up with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 46</p>
<p>Mr Harman, do you have a ref (online preferably) for the Littlewood story? Someone I know is considering a maths PhD and would be amused by it, but also I&#8217;m interested to see what he came up with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: used to be jdc</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10323</link>
		<dc:creator>used to be jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a bit of a discussion going on at the talk page for her Wiki entry (see also #42 above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a bit of a discussion going on at the talk page for her Wiki entry (see also #42 above).</p>
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		<title>By: fish_eyed_sam</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10321</link>
		<dc:creator>fish_eyed_sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I don&#039;t normally like scoffing, this was rather fun: 
http://www.stablesound.co.uk/poo.php

I found it while googling for &quot;poo lady&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I don&#8217;t normally like scoffing, this was rather fun:<br />
<a href="http://www.stablesound.co.uk/poo.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.stablesound.co.uk/poo.php</a></p>
<p>I found it while googling for &#8220;poo lady&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: warumich</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the one. Though because McKeith lives in England things are slightly more complicated. Even so, prison sentences are of course only ever handed out in extreme situations - the best outcome we can hope for I think is a juicy fine (and of course public humiliation, if the newspapers run the story.)

We&#039;ll just have to see what happens. I&#039;ve alerted the authorities to the case. They are obliged to follow it up, so now it&#039;s out of my hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the one. Though because McKeith lives in England things are slightly more complicated. Even so, prison sentences are of course only ever handed out in extreme situations &#8211; the best outcome we can hope for I think is a juicy fine (and of course public humiliation, if the newspapers run the story.)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll just have to see what happens. I&#8217;ve alerted the authorities to the case. They are obliged to follow it up, so now it&#8217;s out of my hand.</p>
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		<title>By: ayupmeduck</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/02/the-internal-examiner/comment-page-2/#comment-10318</link>
		<dc:creator>ayupmeduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>warumich:

I took a look at the German law mayself here http://bundesrecht.juris.de/stgb/__132a.html

If I read this correctly, there is a risk of up to 1 year prision sentence for McKeith. Not something to be taken lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>warumich:</p>
<p>I took a look at the German law mayself here <a href="http://bundesrecht.juris.de/stgb/__132a.html" rel="nofollow">http://bundesrecht.juris.de/stgb/__132a.html</a></p>
<p>If I read this correctly, there is a risk of up to 1 year prision sentence for McKeith. Not something to be taken lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it takes much science or pseudoscience to establish that one can live longer by not having as much fun, but I know what I&#039;d rather do.

Andrew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it takes much science or pseudoscience to establish that one can live longer by not having as much fun, but I know what I&#8217;d rather do.</p>
<p>Andrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the look is that of caloric restriction - like the people who work on the basis of the animal experiments where animals live longer when restricted to about 50% of the amount they would eat if given food &quot;ad lib&quot; :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

...Reading the page, and a recent article in the Observer magazine about crazed calorie-counting New Yorkers, it sounds pretty grim to do. Think I shall take the various mentions of resveratrol on board and have another glass of red wine instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the look is that of caloric restriction &#8211; like the people who work on the basis of the animal experiments where animals live longer when restricted to about 50% of the amount they would eat if given food &#8220;ad lib&#8221; :</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction</a></p>
<p>&#8230;Reading the page, and a recent article in the Observer magazine about crazed calorie-counting New Yorkers, it sounds pretty grim to do. Think I shall take the various mentions of resveratrol on board and have another glass of red wine instead.</p>
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