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		<title>By: wokao123</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-28258</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-19131</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen the Behind the Headlines page on NHS Choices, it&#039;s really good. I thought NHS Choices was a bit hit and miss before but it seems to have really improved now, with interesting features. I&#039;ve never seen an offical NHS site take on the rubbish reports you get in the media, and Behind the Headlines really goes through the science line by line. It will be interesting to see how NHS Choices deals with homeopathy. It skates over it at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen the Behind the Headlines page on NHS Choices, it&#8217;s really good. I thought NHS Choices was a bit hit and miss before but it seems to have really improved now, with interesting features. I&#8217;ve never seen an offical NHS site take on the rubbish reports you get in the media, and Behind the Headlines really goes through the science line by line. It will be interesting to see how NHS Choices deals with homeopathy. It skates over it at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12545</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught sight of one of my former medical students in &quot;Hospital Doctor&quot; the other day - he was giving the NHS the bodyswerve and heading off to rural Queensland, crafty sod.

Medical students can be a bit annoying (like any bunch of 18 yr olds) but they are virtually all bright, motivated, engaged, interested etc etc. A lot more fun to teach than most students, in my experience.

One of the other things that occasionally meeting ex-students n years on teaches you is that their 18 yr old self is not a terribly reliable indicator of what they will be like at 23, let alone 28. Same as for anyone, really. So it behoves us crusty middle-aged academics to cut them some slack.

Like I say, provided students are basically interested, the rest can be acquired/learnt/ taught. The thing that I do find depressing about a significant number of the students in some bioscience degree courses I teach is that they seem to lack basic curiosity about what they are supposed to be studying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught sight of one of my former medical students in &#8220;Hospital Doctor&#8221; the other day &#8211; he was giving the NHS the bodyswerve and heading off to rural Queensland, crafty sod.</p>
<p>Medical students can be a bit annoying (like any bunch of 18 yr olds) but they are virtually all bright, motivated, engaged, interested etc etc. A lot more fun to teach than most students, in my experience.</p>
<p>One of the other things that occasionally meeting ex-students n years on teaches you is that their 18 yr old self is not a terribly reliable indicator of what they will be like at 23, let alone 28. Same as for anyone, really. So it behoves us crusty middle-aged academics to cut them some slack.</p>
<p>Like I say, provided students are basically interested, the rest can be acquired/learnt/ taught. The thing that I do find depressing about a significant number of the students in some bioscience degree courses I teach is that they seem to lack basic curiosity about what they are supposed to be studying.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12524</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s great that people research symptoms themselves, you might find that the reasons gps find it difficult is not because they object to that in principle - it is to be welcomed - but because people are presented with a lot of factually inaccurate and emotionally laden material in the media and on the internet which is very misleading. i&#039;m not sure that saying you just don&#039;t like doctors very much is very helpful, i&#039;m sorry you were teaching them if that&#039;s the case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s great that people research symptoms themselves, you might find that the reasons gps find it difficult is not because they object to that in principle &#8211; it is to be welcomed &#8211; but because people are presented with a lot of factually inaccurate and emotionally laden material in the media and on the internet which is very misleading. i&#8217;m not sure that saying you just don&#8217;t like doctors very much is very helpful, i&#8217;m sorry you were teaching them if that&#8217;s the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave A</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Coracle,
I&#039;m a researcher at EMID - so very much phones.  Contact me on ravenshead42@gmail.com if you want to carry on the gossip - I can&#039;t imagine Ben would be too chuffed for us to use this forum as an NHSD chat room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Coracle,<br />
I&#8217;m a researcher at EMID &#8211; so very much phones.  Contact me on <a href="mailto:ravenshead42@gmail.com">ravenshead42@gmail.com</a> if you want to carry on the gossip &#8211; I can&#8217;t imagine Ben would be too chuffed for us to use this forum as an NHSD chat room!</p>
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		<title>By: coracle</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12465</link>
		<dc:creator>coracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooooh, nice redesign! 

Wasn&#039;t sure where to put that comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooooh, nice redesign! </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t sure where to put that comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12464</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the Anaesthetics Bulletin spoof case, JohnD.
(Definitely a made-up case as they do say at the end that
&quot;Mr Lionel Smith, Professor Audrey Smith, Sonya and Dr Marcus Le Grand do not relate, in part or in whole, to any known person, living or dead.&quot;)

The authors do a nice job of  exemplifying the difficulties for Drs of balancing accuracy and honesty with need to reassure, and the way that the people on both sides of the Dr-patient dialogue are influential in what gets conveyed / understood. I suspect they might have written this in part as a &quot;discussion piece&quot; for use in teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the Anaesthetics Bulletin spoof case, JohnD.<br />
(Definitely a made-up case as they do say at the end that<br />
&#8220;Mr Lionel Smith, Professor Audrey Smith, Sonya and Dr Marcus Le Grand do not relate, in part or in whole, to any known person, living or dead.&#8221;)</p>
<p>The authors do a nice job of  exemplifying the difficulties for Drs of balancing accuracy and honesty with need to reassure, and the way that the people on both sides of the Dr-patient dialogue are influential in what gets conveyed / understood. I suspect they might have written this in part as a &#8220;discussion piece&#8221; for use in teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: coracle</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12458</link>
		<dc:creator>coracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave A, Phones or OES? I&#039;m an OES guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave A, Phones or OES? I&#8217;m an OES guy!</p>
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		<title>By: evidencebasedeating</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12452</link>
		<dc:creator>evidencebasedeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;ve taken to issuing a direct contact number in the hospital promotion material for GPs. They can ring we dietitians directly (on an office number not issued to patients) and if lucky, we&#039;ll be in the office to deal with the query directly.  If not, they leave a contact number and we ring them back within a session. Its worked quite well for the  6 or 7 queries we&#039;ve had so far. GPs seem to appreciate it.... subjectively, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;ve taken to issuing a direct contact number in the hospital promotion material for GPs. They can ring we dietitians directly (on an office number not issued to patients) and if lucky, we&#8217;ll be in the office to deal with the query directly.  If not, they leave a contact number and we ring them back within a session. Its worked quite well for the  6 or 7 queries we&#8217;ve had so far. GPs seem to appreciate it&#8230;. subjectively, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Formermedicalperson</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12450</link>
		<dc:creator>Formermedicalperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax, JohnD. The Bulletin article is indeed entertaining and informative but I&#039;ll bet you an EEG monitor to a chloroform-soaked handfkerchief that it&#039;s a spoof, though possibly based on a real patient. The first give-away was the reference to an alarm for  &#039;inattentive&#039; anaesthetists. I suppose such alarms exist (I did my bit of anaesthetics in the low-tech sixties) but jocular references to our little human weknesses are not on now. 

One technique with the victims of bad journalism (apart from encouraging them to sue the journalist concerned) is to invite them to test their assumtions. I recall a patient who was convinced she had become allergic to various foods, including sugar. She agreed to swallow a naso-gastric tube and we spent a pleasant and instructive day monitoring her reaction to the alleged poisons injected blind and randomly down the tube. She eventually conceded that she was mistaken and - I hope - lived happily ever after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax, JohnD. The Bulletin article is indeed entertaining and informative but I&#8217;ll bet you an EEG monitor to a chloroform-soaked handfkerchief that it&#8217;s a spoof, though possibly based on a real patient. The first give-away was the reference to an alarm for  &#8216;inattentive&#8217; anaesthetists. I suppose such alarms exist (I did my bit of anaesthetics in the low-tech sixties) but jocular references to our little human weknesses are not on now. </p>
<p>One technique with the victims of bad journalism (apart from encouraging them to sue the journalist concerned) is to invite them to test their assumtions. I recall a patient who was convinced she had become allergic to various foods, including sugar. She agreed to swallow a naso-gastric tube and we spent a pleasant and instructive day monitoring her reaction to the alleged poisons injected blind and randomly down the tube. She eventually conceded that she was mistaken and &#8211; I hope &#8211; lived happily ever after.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave A</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/04/doctors-behind-the-headlines/comment-page-1/#comment-12449</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think NeLH Behind the Headlines is fab - I use it an awful lot myself, but.......

There&#039;s another organisation that helps advise people about the reality behind what they read in the papers, or TV or radio for that matter.  I only know because I work for them (hides behind desk to avoid sudden barrage of flak) - NHS Direct.  

I know we mainly get bad press in the media, and even then the nurses get all the attention, but  health info staff like myself answer people&#039;s weird, wonderful &amp; sometimes mundane questions about health, including putting them straight about things like miracle cures peddled by the Daily Mail, drugs being banned or discontinued by the NHS, health scares like the MMR debate, Alder Hey &amp; organ retention policies and pretty much anything else you can think of.

Now, technically, we&#039;re only available to patients, not health professionals - although anecdotally, it seems an awful lot of GP&#039;s etc. send patients to us for more information following diagnosis, or before making decisions about treatment.

Unfortunately, we&#039;re a bit short of health info staff at the moment, so waiting times for the health info side of our service are longer than we&#039;d like, unless its something urgent.  But we&#039;re an option for anyone that wants to call us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think NeLH Behind the Headlines is fab &#8211; I use it an awful lot myself, but&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another organisation that helps advise people about the reality behind what they read in the papers, or TV or radio for that matter.  I only know because I work for them (hides behind desk to avoid sudden barrage of flak) &#8211; NHS Direct.  </p>
<p>I know we mainly get bad press in the media, and even then the nurses get all the attention, but  health info staff like myself answer people&#8217;s weird, wonderful &amp; sometimes mundane questions about health, including putting them straight about things like miracle cures peddled by the Daily Mail, drugs being banned or discontinued by the NHS, health scares like the MMR debate, Alder Hey &amp; organ retention policies and pretty much anything else you can think of.</p>
<p>Now, technically, we&#8217;re only available to patients, not health professionals &#8211; although anecdotally, it seems an awful lot of GP&#8217;s etc. send patients to us for more information following diagnosis, or before making decisions about treatment.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we&#8217;re a bit short of health info staff at the moment, so waiting times for the health info side of our service are longer than we&#8217;d like, unless its something urgent.  But we&#8217;re an option for anyone that wants to call us.</p>
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