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	<title>Comments on: MMR: the scare stories are back</title>
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		<title>By: diudiu</title>
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		<dc:creator>diudiu</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cajsa_lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>cajsa_lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gossip from Sweden:

One of the most aggressive anti-vaccination doctors in Sweden was interviewed in Sweden&#039;s largest newspaper (Dagens Nyheter) a couple of years ago - and I so wish I could find the original article, so I could give you the doctor&#039;s name and be sure the following would be correctly cited:

To me the most interesting in this article was not his connection to the antroposophic hostpital (http://www.vidarkliniken.se/). Neither his claim that vaccination can cause autism, and that sickness is a natural crisis in a childs development (http://antroposofi.org/vaccination.htm). (Sickness furthermore helps the karma and improves the child&#039;s next life: http://www.vof.se/folkvett/20022antroposofisk-medicin---en-granskning) No news there.

In this interview, his four children are mentioned. It turns out that, despite them never having had any vaccinations, two of his children have autism, and one is diagnosed with Asperger. I don&#039;t know what this says really. But I have to admit I smirked. And felt the need of gossiping about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gossip from Sweden:</p>
<p>One of the most aggressive anti-vaccination doctors in Sweden was interviewed in Sweden&#8217;s largest newspaper (Dagens Nyheter) a couple of years ago &#8211; and I so wish I could find the original article, so I could give you the doctor&#8217;s name and be sure the following would be correctly cited:</p>
<p>To me the most interesting in this article was not his connection to the antroposophic hostpital (<a href="http://www.vidarkliniken.se/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vidarkliniken.se/</a>). Neither his claim that vaccination can cause autism, and that sickness is a natural crisis in a childs development (<a href="http://antroposofi.org/vaccination.htm" rel="nofollow">http://antroposofi.org/vaccination.htm</a>). (Sickness furthermore helps the karma and improves the child&#8217;s next life: <a href="http://www.vof.se/folkvett/20022antroposofisk-medicin---en-granskning)" rel="nofollow">http://www.vof.se/folkvett/20022antroposofisk-medicin&#8212;en-granskning)</a> No news there.</p>
<p>In this interview, his four children are mentioned. It turns out that, despite them never having had any vaccinations, two of his children have autism, and one is diagnosed with Asperger. I don&#8217;t know what this says really. But I have to admit I smirked. And felt the need of gossiping about it.</p>
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		<title>By: dbhb</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbhb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nekomatic said:

&quot;What I’d hope we could work towards is a climate where papers and journalists actually felt the same kind of shame about letting science-oriented rubbish see print as they would about politics or arts-related rubbish&quot;

So we continue to be vocal, and name &amp; shame them.

I&#039;d like to see articles carrying more information about their provenance: not just the writer listed, but also the sub-eds and eds who also worked on it, the names of people actually interviewed, the sources of any underlying press releases, and maybe a statement about who commissioned the piece in the first place (the editor? the writer?).

I don&#039;t care if that stuff is just in fine print: I think it could help a lot with transparency and accountability in the media.

On a wider note, I think many in society (especially journalism) need to reexamine certain &#039;sacred concepts&#039;. A great many people seem to have learned that they should be skeptical (and at the same time open-minded!) and unbiased.

Sounds good, except when those nice neat principles mislead them into being skeptical of evidence and the scientific community, open-minded about supernatural gubbins, and presenting unequally-valid opinions as equally valid in the belief that this is unbiased and fair of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nekomatic said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What I’d hope we could work towards is a climate where papers and journalists actually felt the same kind of shame about letting science-oriented rubbish see print as they would about politics or arts-related rubbish&#8221;</p>
<p>So we continue to be vocal, and name &amp; shame them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see articles carrying more information about their provenance: not just the writer listed, but also the sub-eds and eds who also worked on it, the names of people actually interviewed, the sources of any underlying press releases, and maybe a statement about who commissioned the piece in the first place (the editor? the writer?).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if that stuff is just in fine print: I think it could help a lot with transparency and accountability in the media.</p>
<p>On a wider note, I think many in society (especially journalism) need to reexamine certain &#8217;sacred concepts&#8217;. A great many people seem to have learned that they should be skeptical (and at the same time open-minded!) and unbiased.</p>
<p>Sounds good, except when those nice neat principles mislead them into being skeptical of evidence and the scientific community, open-minded about supernatural gubbins, and presenting unequally-valid opinions as equally valid in the belief that this is unbiased and fair of them.</p>
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		<title>By: nekomatic</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14848</link>
		<dc:creator>nekomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for influential figures or bodies in journalism publically condemning journalists or papers who produce irresponsible articles. I&#039;m all for the individuals who&#039;ve been misrepresented in this case going to the PCC and all for the PCC taking whatever action it can against the Observer on that basis. What I really don&#039;t think will work is trying to set up some kind of &#039;science court&#039; with the power to punish those who offend against scientific correctness. How on earth would you constitute and select such a body? How would it have a hope in hell of being accepted as independent, unbiased and acting in the interest of the citizen?

What I&#039;d hope we could work towards is a climate where papers and journalists actually felt the same kind of shame about letting science-oriented rubbish see print as they would about politics or arts-related rubbish (can I cite the &quot;Hitler diaries&quot; without invoking Godwin&#039;s Law?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for influential figures or bodies in journalism publically condemning journalists or papers who produce irresponsible articles. I&#8217;m all for the individuals who&#8217;ve been misrepresented in this case going to the PCC and all for the PCC taking whatever action it can against the Observer on that basis. What I really don&#8217;t think will work is trying to set up some kind of &#8217;science court&#8217; with the power to punish those who offend against scientific correctness. How on earth would you constitute and select such a body? How would it have a hope in hell of being accepted as independent, unbiased and acting in the interest of the citizen?</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d hope we could work towards is a climate where papers and journalists actually felt the same kind of shame about letting science-oriented rubbish see print as they would about politics or arts-related rubbish (can I cite the &#8220;Hitler diaries&#8221; without invoking Godwin&#8217;s Law?)</p>
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		<title>By: SPig</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: hairnet &quot;hardon-hadron collisions&quot;. It was only a matter of time for scientists already trying to understand semions..

http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v63/i20/p2295_1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: hairnet &#8220;hardon-hadron collisions&#8221;. It was only a matter of time for scientists already trying to understand semions..</p>
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		<title>By: JohnK</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14809</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of swearing in linguistics journals of course:

McCarthy, John. 1982. Prosodic structure and expletive infixation. Language
58.3:574-590

for example:

A second problem with the formulation in 2 concerns the requirement of an
immediately following PRIMARY stress. Rather, it appears that any degree of
stress will do. Both spontaneous (5) and constructed (6) examples illustrate
this:
( 5 ) amalga-bloody-mated (M)
emanci-motherfuckin-pator (M)
every-bloody-body (M)
handi-bloody-cap (M)
hypo-bloody-crite (M)
kinder-goddamn-garten (M)
Lauder-damn-dale (M)


(this paper cites a chapter entitled &quot;Where you can shove infixes&quot; which also sounds great!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of swearing in linguistics journals of course:</p>
<p>McCarthy, John. 1982. Prosodic structure and expletive infixation. Language<br />
58.3:574-590</p>
<p>for example:</p>
<p>A second problem with the formulation in 2 concerns the requirement of an<br />
immediately following PRIMARY stress. Rather, it appears that any degree of<br />
stress will do. Both spontaneous (5) and constructed (6) examples illustrate<br />
this:<br />
( 5 ) amalga-bloody-mated (M)<br />
emanci-motherfuckin-pator (M)<br />
every-bloody-body (M)<br />
handi-bloody-cap (M)<br />
hypo-bloody-crite (M)<br />
kinder-goddamn-garten (M)<br />
Lauder-damn-dale (M)</p>
<p>(this paper cites a chapter entitled &#8220;Where you can shove infixes&#8221; which also sounds great!).</p>
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		<title>By: Teek</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14806</link>
		<dc:creator>Teek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nekomatic, i agree that science is not a finished article and that things are up for debate - but there must be a system in place to avoid the publication of unsubstantiated, unsupported, biased and/or unpublished &quot;data.&quot; you say that it would play into the hands of those that think scientists are paternalistic - my argument is that too often journalists, either cos they&#039;re lazy or cos they don&#039;t know any better, swallow claims made by charming and forceful/convincing scientist &quot;because they are an expert and they say so.&quot;

this is why it is so important, nay, vital, that science journalism is conducted by those trained either in a scientific discipline, or at the very least in how to critically evaluate publications and how to avoid the &#039;Wakefield fallacy&#039; of taking crappy data and extrapolating in the national press without supporting evidence to the detriment of millions of children</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nekomatic, i agree that science is not a finished article and that things are up for debate &#8211; but there must be a system in place to avoid the publication of unsubstantiated, unsupported, biased and/or unpublished &#8220;data.&#8221; you say that it would play into the hands of those that think scientists are paternalistic &#8211; my argument is that too often journalists, either cos they&#8217;re lazy or cos they don&#8217;t know any better, swallow claims made by charming and forceful/convincing scientist &#8220;because they are an expert and they say so.&#8221;</p>
<p>this is why it is so important, nay, vital, that science journalism is conducted by those trained either in a scientific discipline, or at the very least in how to critically evaluate publications and how to avoid the &#8216;Wakefield fallacy&#8217; of taking crappy data and extrapolating in the national press without supporting evidence to the detriment of millions of children</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hairnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>hairnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone with access to physicsy type journals will find a pleasingly large number of references to hardon-hadron collisions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone with access to physicsy type journals will find a pleasingly large number of references to hardon-hadron collisions!</p>
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		<title>By: nekomatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nekomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha, well done to the people who had less compunction than I did about searching on the C-word on Pubmed (I typed it in the box but couldn&#039;t bring myself to hit Go for fear of the big red fire bell going off in the IT department and drawing unwelcome attention to my level of non-work-related web activity). Ben, I can&#039;t believe you didn&#039;t do this basic bit of research before making such rash claims about swearing in journals of record. What&#039;s science journalism coming to, eh? ;-)

More seriously...

&quot;why isn’t there adequate press regulation in terms of an obligation for journos to check their effing facts with an expert…?! (...) btw by expert i mean recognised respected published academic&quot;

I hope a little thought will convince people that&#039;s a bad approach. I can&#039;t see how it would work in practice (plenty of recognised respected published academics have vocally supported batty ideas) and more importantly it lends weight to the perception of science as a monolithic establishment that suppresses dissent and insists that What We Say Is The Truth Because We&#039;re Scientists And We Say So - which plays right into the hands of the pressure groups. Science is never &#039;finished&#039; or &#039;decided&#039; and it shouldn&#039;t be presented as such: it&#039;s all about the critical evaluation of evidence and constructing a model that best fits the evidence available at the time - and updating it as that evidence and our assessment of it is updated. One would hope that was pretty much what investigative journalists sought to do as well. It&#039;s understandable that people on here might wish we could lay down the law and somehow punish journalists and others who misrepresent the consensus or state untruths but ultimately what&#039;s sauce for the scientist goose is sauce for the journalist gander: you have to give people the tools and let them get on with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha, well done to the people who had less compunction than I did about searching on the C-word on Pubmed (I typed it in the box but couldn&#8217;t bring myself to hit Go for fear of the big red fire bell going off in the IT department and drawing unwelcome attention to my level of non-work-related web activity). Ben, I can&#8217;t believe you didn&#8217;t do this basic bit of research before making such rash claims about swearing in journals of record. What&#8217;s science journalism coming to, eh? <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More seriously&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;why isn’t there adequate press regulation in terms of an obligation for journos to check their effing facts with an expert…?! (&#8230;) btw by expert i mean recognised respected published academic&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope a little thought will convince people that&#8217;s a bad approach. I can&#8217;t see how it would work in practice (plenty of recognised respected published academics have vocally supported batty ideas) and more importantly it lends weight to the perception of science as a monolithic establishment that suppresses dissent and insists that What We Say Is The Truth Because We&#8217;re Scientists And We Say So &#8211; which plays right into the hands of the pressure groups. Science is never &#8216;finished&#8217; or &#8216;decided&#8217; and it shouldn&#8217;t be presented as such: it&#8217;s all about the critical evaluation of evidence and constructing a model that best fits the evidence available at the time &#8211; and updating it as that evidence and our assessment of it is updated. One would hope that was pretty much what investigative journalists sought to do as well. It&#8217;s understandable that people on here might wish we could lay down the law and somehow punish journalists and others who misrepresent the consensus or state untruths but ultimately what&#8217;s sauce for the scientist goose is sauce for the journalist gander: you have to give people the tools and let them get on with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem is that once a simple figure such as 1 in 58 has lodged itself in the public mind, it is almost impossible to eradicate, like a religious belief. Another example is the &quot;600,000 deaths in Iraq&quot;, which I have seen quoted everywhere as fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem is that once a simple figure such as 1 in 58 has lodged itself in the public mind, it is almost impossible to eradicate, like a religious belief. Another example is the &#8220;600,000 deaths in Iraq&#8221;, which I have seen quoted everywhere as fact.</p>
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		<title>By: dbhb</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbhb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A metastudy of Observer staff views on MMR.

Just discovered a 5-year old article describing assorted views of Observer staff on the MMR issue. Fascinating stuff...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,,647859,00.html

I thought I spotted a pattern so I tried to break it down a bit- it&#039;s a rush job but hey.

In &quot;writer/reporter&quot; category, 4 were pro-MMR (including, interestingly, not just the &#039;science writer&#039; but also the &#039;arts writer&#039; and the &#039;sports writer&#039;), 2 against and 3 inbetween.
The two &quot;researchers&quot; were both pro-MMR.
However out of 6 &quot;editors/ sub-editors&quot; and 1 &quot;manager&quot;, 5-6 were anti-MMR, and 1-2 were undecided.

Now this is all preliminary and I haven&#039;t done the stats, but I think there&#039;s a strong pattern emerging here!

Special credits go to Antony Barnett (reporter) who is &quot;pretty sceptical of the scientific community (funded by drug companies, etc)&quot;, Martin Love (sub-editor) who claimed that &quot;in just five years the medical profession has gone from total denial to telling us the MMR is dangerous&quot; (?!), and Kate Edgley (sub-editor) who was turned off MMR by the opinions of her &#039;homeopath&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A metastudy of Observer staff views on MMR.</p>
<p>Just discovered a 5-year old article describing assorted views of Observer staff on the MMR issue. Fascinating stuff&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,,647859,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,,647859,00.html</a></p>
<p>I thought I spotted a pattern so I tried to break it down a bit- it&#8217;s a rush job but hey.</p>
<p>In &#8220;writer/reporter&#8221; category, 4 were pro-MMR (including, interestingly, not just the &#8217;science writer&#8217; but also the &#8216;arts writer&#8217; and the &#8217;sports writer&#8217;), 2 against and 3 inbetween.<br />
The two &#8220;researchers&#8221; were both pro-MMR.<br />
However out of 6 &#8220;editors/ sub-editors&#8221; and 1 &#8220;manager&#8221;, 5-6 were anti-MMR, and 1-2 were undecided.</p>
<p>Now this is all preliminary and I haven&#8217;t done the stats, but I think there&#8217;s a strong pattern emerging here!</p>
<p>Special credits go to Antony Barnett (reporter) who is &#8220;pretty sceptical of the scientific community (funded by drug companies, etc)&#8221;, Martin Love (sub-editor) who claimed that &#8220;in just five years the medical profession has gone from total denial to telling us the MMR is dangerous&#8221; (?!), and Kate Edgley (sub-editor) who was turned off MMR by the opinions of her &#8216;homeopath&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: peningda</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14793</link>
		<dc:creator>peningda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I learn about this, the more it looks like Carol Stott must be the source of Denis Campbell&#039;s story.
She was presumably part of the Cambridge team in 2005, she would have received Prof Baron-Cohen’s email, she&#039;s still an MMR-Autism believer, and she has a strong personal and financial interest in Andrew Wakefield not being struck off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I learn about this, the more it looks like Carol Stott must be the source of Denis Campbell&#8217;s story.<br />
She was presumably part of the Cambridge team in 2005, she would have received Prof Baron-Cohen’s email, she&#8217;s still an MMR-Autism believer, and she has a strong personal and financial interest in Andrew Wakefield not being struck off.</p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14790</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here are a few prats:
http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15611171</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here are a few prats:<br />
<a href="http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15611171" rel="nofollow">http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15611171</a></p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14789</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of this paper&#039;s authors didn&#039;t have to try at all:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&amp;artid=167457</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of this paper&#8217;s authors didn&#8217;t have to try at all:<br />
<a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&amp;artid=167457" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&amp;artid=167457</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gimpy</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14786</link>
		<dc:creator>Gimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also the knobhead mutation  in Arabidopsis

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&amp;pubmedid=12226189</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the knobhead mutation  in Arabidopsis</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&amp;pubmedid=12226189" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&amp;pubmedid=12226189</a></p>
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		<title>By: SPig</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14784</link>
		<dc:creator>SPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an active and aggressive ( perhaps also justified) use of twat (just after the advert).

http://icrenfrewshire.icnetwork.co.uk/pde/news/tm_headline=double-trouble-for-daft-driver%26method=full%26objectid=19445281%26siteid=63858-name_page.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an active and aggressive ( perhaps also justified) use of twat (just after the advert).</p>
<p><a href="http://icrenfrewshire.icnetwork.co.uk/pde/news/tm_headline=double-trouble-for-daft-driver%26method=full%26objectid=19445281%26siteid=63858-name_page.html" rel="nofollow">http://icrenfrewshire.icnetwork.co.uk/pde/news/tm_headline=double-trouble-for-daft-driver%26method=full%26objectid=19445281%26siteid=63858-name_page.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: iridium77</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14782</link>
		<dc:creator>iridium77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can beat sweary papers with a diagram...

http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/doilookup?in_doi=10.1021/ic0352250

(Sadly not my paper!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can beat sweary papers with a diagram&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/doilookup?in_doi=10.1021/ic0352250" rel="nofollow">http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/doilookup?in_doi=10.1021/ic0352250</a></p>
<p>(Sadly not my paper!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dyscolus</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14780</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyscolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got some arses here:
http://www.ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=10943</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got some arses here:<br />
<a href="http://www.ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=10943" rel="nofollow">http://www.ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=10943</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/07/british-medical-journal-mmr-the-scare-stories-are-back/comment-page-1/#comment-14779</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gimpy, I totally read that title as &quot;Ovarian teratoma is a bitch&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gimpy, I totally read that title as &#8220;Ovarian teratoma is a bitch&#8221;.</p>
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