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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neil...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the marketing departments of all these companies who make a &lt;a href=&quot;http://pinkdigitalcamera.explainedclearly.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pink digital camera&lt;/a&gt; think that girls like pink, and continue to do so into adulthood (at least until they are old enough to buy digital cameras and laptops, mobile phones even cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the marketing departments of all these companies who make a <a href="http://pinkdigitalcamera.explainedclearly.com" rel="nofollow">pink digital camera</a> think that girls like pink, and continue to do so into adulthood (at least until they are old enough to buy digital cameras and laptops, mobile phones even cars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mickjames</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me or is the extreme &quot;pinkisation&quot; of female childhoood (and, more distubingly, adulthood) not a very recent phenomenom?  It&#039;s difficult to recall, as I grew up in an all-boy household in the &#039;60s (so our dominant colour was camouflage green) but I thought all that &quot;painting the nursery pink&quot; thing only happened in Doris Day movies. 
Nowadays everything seems to have a &quot;female,pink&quot; version: pink bikes, pink DVD players, even pink computers. Friends with female children claim they choose pink spontaneously, but I can&#039;t see what other choice they are offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me or is the extreme &#8220;pinkisation&#8221; of female childhoood (and, more distubingly, adulthood) not a very recent phenomenom?  It&#8217;s difficult to recall, as I grew up in an all-boy household in the &#8217;60s (so our dominant colour was camouflage green) but I thought all that &#8220;painting the nursery pink&#8221; thing only happened in Doris Day movies.<br />
Nowadays everything seems to have a &#8220;female,pink&#8221; version: pink bikes, pink DVD players, even pink computers. Friends with female children claim they choose pink spontaneously, but I can&#8217;t see what other choice they are offered.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalo66</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-3/#comment-16838</link>
		<dc:creator>buffalo66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RS (#105): &quot;Well ok, not pointless, but not exactly setting out to answer a major scientific question - for all the pretty graphs it is only one step up from a survey.&quot;

Why does every study have to answer a major scientific question?  Surely there&#039;s room for the less important questions as well?  As I argued in my previous post, the general topic of aesthetic preferences is far from trivial.  Answering major scientific questions takes a lot of time and effort, and usually involves many false starts, so it&#039;s a good idea to have some easy side-projects on the go, to keep your publication rate up.  Anya Hurlbert&#039;s main research area is the more serious issue of colour constancy, i.e. the tendency for things to look the same colour after a change in the illuminant (e.g. from daylight to light bulbs).

As for the study being &quot;one step up from a survey&quot;, it&#039;s true that the subjects were shown things and asked questions about them, but that&#039;s the most straightforward way to study the perceptual experience.  It is a very well-established paradigm to show subjects two stimuli, and get them to say which one looked brighter, longer, faster, further away, etc.  Asking subjects which of two colours they prefer is formally equivalent to any of these.  I can see no problems with either the subject matter or the methodology of this study.

The authors have been rightly criticised for their rather implausible evolutionary interpretation of the results, but in their paper the evolutionary stuff is clearly described as speculation rather than a firm conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RS (#105): &#8220;Well ok, not pointless, but not exactly setting out to answer a major scientific question &#8211; for all the pretty graphs it is only one step up from a survey.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why does every study have to answer a major scientific question?  Surely there&#8217;s room for the less important questions as well?  As I argued in my previous post, the general topic of aesthetic preferences is far from trivial.  Answering major scientific questions takes a lot of time and effort, and usually involves many false starts, so it&#8217;s a good idea to have some easy side-projects on the go, to keep your publication rate up.  Anya Hurlbert&#8217;s main research area is the more serious issue of colour constancy, i.e. the tendency for things to look the same colour after a change in the illuminant (e.g. from daylight to light bulbs).</p>
<p>As for the study being &#8220;one step up from a survey&#8221;, it&#8217;s true that the subjects were shown things and asked questions about them, but that&#8217;s the most straightforward way to study the perceptual experience.  It is a very well-established paradigm to show subjects two stimuli, and get them to say which one looked brighter, longer, faster, further away, etc.  Asking subjects which of two colours they prefer is formally equivalent to any of these.  I can see no problems with either the subject matter or the methodology of this study.</p>
<p>The authors have been rightly criticised for their rather implausible evolutionary interpretation of the results, but in their paper the evolutionary stuff is clearly described as speculation rather than a firm conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: buffalo66</title>
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		<dc:creator>buffalo66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 100 Kim: &quot;I&#039;m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money.&quot;

Aesthetic preferences play an important part in most peoples&#039; lives.  They influence our choice of music, films, books, art, clothes, hairstyle, car, interior decoration, and sexual partner, among many other things.  Therefore, to understand aesthetic preferences is to understand an important part of the human psyche.  Surely this is not a waste of time and money?  Hurlbert &amp; Ling&#039;s study is just a tiny piece in an enormous jigsaw puzzle.  It provides some good quality data on what peoples&#039; colour preferences are.

You ask what purpose this research could serve.  One possible application would be to help manufacturers decide what colours to make their products.  But the primary goal of science is to find stuff out, not to be useful.  Finding stuff out does tend to have practical benefits but, in many fields of science, if you take an individual paper, it is often difficult to think of a convincing practical application of the findings it describes.  Most individual findings are pretty insignificant on their own but, taken together, they can lead to a useful increase in our understanding of something.

But, even if something has virtually no practical benefit, it can still be worth funding.  That&#039;s why we have government funding of the arts.  In the case of science, if the findings are interesting, then the research was worth doing.  And given the amount of media coverage of Hurlbert &amp; Ling&#039;s research, it&#039;s clear that many people were interested in it.  In fact, research with no immediate practical benefit is just the sort of thing that should be funded by public money - research with obvious practical benefits is likely to find an industrial sponsor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 100 Kim: &#8220;I&#8217;m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aesthetic preferences play an important part in most peoples&#8217; lives.  They influence our choice of music, films, books, art, clothes, hairstyle, car, interior decoration, and sexual partner, among many other things.  Therefore, to understand aesthetic preferences is to understand an important part of the human psyche.  Surely this is not a waste of time and money?  Hurlbert &amp; Ling&#8217;s study is just a tiny piece in an enormous jigsaw puzzle.  It provides some good quality data on what peoples&#8217; colour preferences are.</p>
<p>You ask what purpose this research could serve.  One possible application would be to help manufacturers decide what colours to make their products.  But the primary goal of science is to find stuff out, not to be useful.  Finding stuff out does tend to have practical benefits but, in many fields of science, if you take an individual paper, it is often difficult to think of a convincing practical application of the findings it describes.  Most individual findings are pretty insignificant on their own but, taken together, they can lead to a useful increase in our understanding of something.</p>
<p>But, even if something has virtually no practical benefit, it can still be worth funding.  That&#8217;s why we have government funding of the arts.  In the case of science, if the findings are interesting, then the research was worth doing.  And given the amount of media coverage of Hurlbert &amp; Ling&#8217;s research, it&#8217;s clear that many people were interested in it.  In fact, research with no immediate practical benefit is just the sort of thing that should be funded by public money &#8211; research with obvious practical benefits is likely to find an industrial sponsor.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ShatterFace - you said a most extraordinary thing: &quot;Or is simply pretending that men and women are exactly the same - whatever the consequences - more important to you?&quot;

Whatever gave you the idea that I think that? Why would you imagine that I think men and women are exactly the same? What purpose does it serve you to put words into my mouth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ShatterFace &#8211; you said a most extraordinary thing: &#8220;Or is simply pretending that men and women are exactly the same &#8211; whatever the consequences &#8211; more important to you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Whatever gave you the idea that I think that? Why would you imagine that I think men and women are exactly the same? What purpose does it serve you to put words into my mouth?</p>
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		<title>By: coracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>coracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amy H</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting the comments from 1914 and 1918 about pink being the appropriate color for a boy. This sheds light on a fascination I&#039;ve had for a long time about the colors used in men&#039;s professional cycling in Europe and how at odds they seem with what (in the US anyway) would be considered masculine colors.  

Yellow for the leader&#039;s jersey in Tour de France.  Red polka dots for King of the Mountains jersey.  White for the young rider&#039;s jersey.  Pink leader&#039;s jersey in the Giro D&#039;Italia.  And lots of men&#039;s teams with bright but light colors such as pink, yellow, lime green, sky blue -- T-Mobile calls its color magenta but c&#039;mon it&#039;s really bright pink!  And this is in a sport which is unabashedly tough and masculine.  

At any rate I know the leader&#039;s jerseys in the Tour and Giro are related to the companies that sponsor them (e.g., the pink pages of the Italian newspaper that sponsors the Giro) so maybe it&#039;s just a matter of capitalism at work.  On the other hand, the Tour, for one, is over a hundred years old so maybe it&#039;s only a reflection of earlier masculine tastes in color. Then again, dark colors absorb more heat -- so maybe it&#039;s just a matter of practicality.  At any rate, whatever the explanation, I know you would never see a pink jersey as the ultimate prize in the average US men&#039;s sports competition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the comments from 1914 and 1918 about pink being the appropriate color for a boy. This sheds light on a fascination I&#8217;ve had for a long time about the colors used in men&#8217;s professional cycling in Europe and how at odds they seem with what (in the US anyway) would be considered masculine colors.  </p>
<p>Yellow for the leader&#8217;s jersey in Tour de France.  Red polka dots for King of the Mountains jersey.  White for the young rider&#8217;s jersey.  Pink leader&#8217;s jersey in the Giro D&#8217;Italia.  And lots of men&#8217;s teams with bright but light colors such as pink, yellow, lime green, sky blue &#8212; T-Mobile calls its color magenta but c&#8217;mon it&#8217;s really bright pink!  And this is in a sport which is unabashedly tough and masculine.  </p>
<p>At any rate I know the leader&#8217;s jerseys in the Tour and Giro are related to the companies that sponsor them (e.g., the pink pages of the Italian newspaper that sponsors the Giro) so maybe it&#8217;s just a matter of capitalism at work.  On the other hand, the Tour, for one, is over a hundred years old so maybe it&#8217;s only a reflection of earlier masculine tastes in color. Then again, dark colors absorb more heat &#8212; so maybe it&#8217;s just a matter of practicality.  At any rate, whatever the explanation, I know you would never see a pink jersey as the ultimate prize in the average US men&#8217;s sports competition!</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ok, not pointless, but not exactly setting out to answer a major scientific question - for all the pretty graphs it is only one step up from a survey.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i certainly don&#039;t think the study was pointless, i just think the interpretation was a little wishful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i certainly don&#8217;t think the study was pointless, i just think the interpretation was a little wishful.</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16656</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are serious issues involved if there are sexual differences in colour preferences. 

Imagine, for instance that me find blue more eyecatching and women find pink more eye catching.&quot;

Gosh yes, imagine that someone had actually done a study that showed that - rather than an utterly pointless study of expressed colour preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are serious issues involved if there are sexual differences in colour preferences. </p>
<p>Imagine, for instance that me find blue more eyecatching and women find pink more eye catching.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gosh yes, imagine that someone had actually done a study that showed that &#8211; rather than an utterly pointless study of expressed colour preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: ShatterFace</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16628</link>
		<dc:creator>ShatterFace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;I’m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money. The hypothesis that colour preference is genetically coded is equally pointless: a, you can’t prove it, b, even if you could prove it, what purpose would it serve? Seriously?&#039;&#039;

There are serious issues involved if there are sexual differences in colour preferences. 

Imagine, for instance that me find blue more eyecatching and women find pink more eye catching. 

Imagine that a safety panel decides, based on it&#039;s study of *male* employees, that safety warnings should be written in blue in order to be noticed. 

Wouldn&#039;t pointing out that this might put female employees at risk be important enough? 

Or is simply pretending that men and women are exactly the same - whatever the consequences - more important to you?

&#039;&#039;I suppose that if there is a genetically founded sex bias in our choices of colour of important objects, such as the Houses of Parliament, it would amount to discrimination… hmm, does any country have a pastel legislature?&#039;&#039;

I believe there&#039;s a Whitehouse somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;I’m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money. The hypothesis that colour preference is genetically coded is equally pointless: a, you can’t prove it, b, even if you could prove it, what purpose would it serve? Seriously?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are serious issues involved if there are sexual differences in colour preferences. </p>
<p>Imagine, for instance that me find blue more eyecatching and women find pink more eye catching. </p>
<p>Imagine that a safety panel decides, based on it&#8217;s study of *male* employees, that safety warnings should be written in blue in order to be noticed. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t pointing out that this might put female employees at risk be important enough? </p>
<p>Or is simply pretending that men and women are exactly the same &#8211; whatever the consequences &#8211; more important to you?</p>
<p>&#8221;I suppose that if there is a genetically founded sex bias in our choices of colour of important objects, such as the Houses of Parliament, it would amount to discrimination… hmm, does any country have a pastel legislature?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe there&#8217;s a Whitehouse somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16612</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose that if there is a genetically founded sex bias in our choices of colour of important objects, such as the Houses of Parliament, it would amount to discrimination... hmm, does any country have a pastel legislature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that if there is a genetically founded sex bias in our choices of colour of important objects, such as the Houses of Parliament, it would amount to discrimination&#8230; hmm, does any country have a pastel legislature?</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16611</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money. The hypothesis that colour preference is genetically coded is equally pointless: a, you can&#039;t prove it, b, even if you could prove it, what purpose would it serve? Seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m entirely with Zoe Williams on this. A piece of research that does nothing but find out that women tend to share a preference for one colour of another, and men likewise, is a waste of time and public money. The hypothesis that colour preference is genetically coded is equally pointless: a, you can&#8217;t prove it, b, even if you could prove it, what purpose would it serve? Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16607</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In other words, the genetic influence becomes stronger and the environmental influence weaker as the person ages, at least with regard to IQ.&quot;

And yet, high IQ heritability enthusiasts interpret that as great evidence for the genetic basis IQ, rather than evidence of the lability of IQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In other words, the genetic influence becomes stronger and the environmental influence weaker as the person ages, at least with regard to IQ.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet, high IQ heritability enthusiasts interpret that as great evidence for the genetic basis IQ, rather than evidence of the lability of IQ.</p>
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		<title>By: Garote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who wish to take the BSRI (Bem Sex Role Inventory) test for yourselves, but don&#039;t wish to break out pen and paper to learn your score, I&#039;ve whipped up a self-scoring version using JavaScript.  Took me about half an hour.

http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/bsri.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who wish to take the BSRI (Bem Sex Role Inventory) test for yourselves, but don&#8217;t wish to break out pen and paper to learn your score, I&#8217;ve whipped up a self-scoring version using JavaScript.  Took me about half an hour.</p>
<p><a href="http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/bsri.html" rel="nofollow">garote.bdmonkeys.net/bsri.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16574</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If several of your friends are colour-blind, then won&#039;t that influence your community consensus on colours?</description>
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		<title>By: ForeverAutumn</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/08/pink-pink-pink-pink-pink-moan/comment-page-2/#comment-16558</link>
		<dc:creator>ForeverAutumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Another way to separate “nature versus nurture” when it comes to favorite colors will be to test the preferences of infants.&quot;

Maybe if the infants are newborn. But if we&#039;re talking about babies who have spent most of the last six months sleeping in a room that is painted the sex-appropriate colour, I would expect them to be *more* affected by the pink/blue preference than adults, for purely environmental reasons.

Interesting fact I found out lately. If you test adopted children in infancy, their IQ scores are strongly correlated with those of their adopted parents and weakly with those of their biological parents. If you test them again later in childhood, this correlation is reversed. In other words, the genetic influence becomes stronger and the environmental influence weaker as the person ages, at least with regard to IQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another way to separate “nature versus nurture” when it comes to favorite colors will be to test the preferences of infants.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe if the infants are newborn. But if we&#8217;re talking about babies who have spent most of the last six months sleeping in a room that is painted the sex-appropriate colour, I would expect them to be *more* affected by the pink/blue preference than adults, for purely environmental reasons.</p>
<p>Interesting fact I found out lately. If you test adopted children in infancy, their IQ scores are strongly correlated with those of their adopted parents and weakly with those of their biological parents. If you test them again later in childhood, this correlation is reversed. In other words, the genetic influence becomes stronger and the environmental influence weaker as the person ages, at least with regard to IQ.</p>
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