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	<title>Comments on: Clarion Communications respond on the rigged Jessica Alba wiggle&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: diudiu</title>
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		<dc:creator>diudiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-17145</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i love about this place is the sheer scale of the unfettered anality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i love about this place is the sheer scale of the unfettered anality.</p>
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		<title>By: pigfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-17144</link>
		<dc:creator>pigfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the accusative plural of &#039;homo&#039; wouldn&#039;t be stored in Ben&#039;s semantic memory in any case as it is the recall of a propositionally learnt grammatical pattern - semantic memory would only be activated by recalling the lexemic meaning &#039;man or person&#039; which is not affected by case/number.

However, I am prepared to go along with Ben&#039;s argument that it was episodic in this instance!! My recall of 3rd declension nouns (specifically &#039;rex&#039; in my case)is similarly episodic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the accusative plural of &#8216;homo&#8217; wouldn&#8217;t be stored in Ben&#8217;s semantic memory in any case as it is the recall of a propositionally learnt grammatical pattern &#8211; semantic memory would only be activated by recalling the lexemic meaning &#8216;man or person&#8217; which is not affected by case/number.</p>
<p>However, I am prepared to go along with Ben&#8217;s argument that it was episodic in this instance!! My recall of 3rd declension nouns (specifically &#8216;rex&#8217; in my case)is similarly episodic!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben is clearly talking about &lt;i&gt;flakey&lt;/i&gt; humanities graduates  (who happen to dominate the media) - and not the non-flakey kind.

Sheesh.. don&#039;t you guys know anything about textual analysis or literary criticism? Can&#039;t you even read plain English??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben is clearly talking about <i>flakey</i> humanities graduates  (who happen to dominate the media) &#8211; and not the non-flakey kind.</p>
<p>Sheesh.. don&#8217;t you guys know anything about textual analysis or literary criticism? Can&#8217;t you even read plain English??</p>
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		<title>By: mockingbird</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-17022</link>
		<dc:creator>mockingbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Goldacre has won awards for making fun of humanities graduates, don&#039;t you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Goldacre has won awards for making fun of humanities graduates, don&#8217;t you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-17013</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“flaky humanities graduates who run the media” is a longstanding in joke with myself and i will never let it lie.&quot;

Please, please do or I&#039;ll bally-well burst into tears. I agonised for months trying to decide which A-levels to take all those years ago and I can&#039;t bear the thought that dropping all official science studies back then means that no matter how many journals I read and how many long words I look up I&#039;ll never be smart enough to understand that no control group = meaningless results.

One faint thought does flicker in my dull, language-graduate brain though: shouldn&#039;t history graduates know rather a lot about the reliability of sources and statistics, and media graduates be aware of conflicts of interest, and shouldn&#039;t an intelligent and experienced writer know that &quot;flaky humanities graduates&quot; implies all H.G.s are a bit flaky?

No hard feelings really, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“flaky humanities graduates who run the media” is a longstanding in joke with myself and i will never let it lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please, please do or I&#8217;ll bally-well burst into tears. I agonised for months trying to decide which A-levels to take all those years ago and I can&#8217;t bear the thought that dropping all official science studies back then means that no matter how many journals I read and how many long words I look up I&#8217;ll never be smart enough to understand that no control group = meaningless results.</p>
<p>One faint thought does flicker in my dull, language-graduate brain though: shouldn&#8217;t history graduates know rather a lot about the reliability of sources and statistics, and media graduates be aware of conflicts of interest, and shouldn&#8217;t an intelligent and experienced writer know that &#8220;flaky humanities graduates&#8221; implies all H.G.s are a bit flaky?</p>
<p>No hard feelings really, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-17005</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with using personal in-jokes in e-mail to people who don&#039;t know you and your work, is, is self-evident.  I mean, unless you&#039;re communicating these days by YouTube, they can&#039;t see you making &quot;quote fingers&quot;.  Your hands are away from the keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with using personal in-jokes in e-mail to people who don&#8217;t know you and your work, is, is self-evident.  I mean, unless you&#8217;re communicating these days by YouTube, they can&#8217;t see you making &#8220;quote fingers&#8221;.  Your hands are away from the keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: olliemae</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16997</link>
		<dc:creator>olliemae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, you seem to have ruffled a few feathers among your &quot;flaky humanities&quot; readers.  Even if we haven&#039;t studied science at uni, many of us do take the subject seriously.  I myself studied chemistry for two years before switching to my flaky classics degree.  

I of course agree that the so-called journalists who write this tripe are flaky, but in order to improve the problem we need to get away from looking down on those who take a nonprofessional interest in another subject (i.e. writers who dabble in science, doctors who dabble in writing, etc.).  We should encourage crossover work, grab some scientists to write the science news, find out how philosophers could reform the pharmaceutical industry.  We might just bring in some fresh new ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, you seem to have ruffled a few feathers among your &#8220;flaky humanities&#8221; readers.  Even if we haven&#8217;t studied science at uni, many of us do take the subject seriously.  I myself studied chemistry for two years before switching to my flaky classics degree.  </p>
<p>I of course agree that the so-called journalists who write this tripe are flaky, but in order to improve the problem we need to get away from looking down on those who take a nonprofessional interest in another subject (i.e. writers who dabble in science, doctors who dabble in writing, etc.).  We should encourage crossover work, grab some scientists to write the science news, find out how philosophers could reform the pharmaceutical industry.  We might just bring in some fresh new ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: used to be jdc</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16982</link>
		<dc:creator>used to be jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.badscience.net/?p=523#comment-16950 
Cheers Steve Senior. I&#039;m supposed to be working, but memory recall and models of the formation of semantic memory seem much more interesting...

Apparently, &quot;recent functional MRI (fMRI) results suggest that the human thalamus is involved during semantic memory recall.&quot;
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=122967

I&#039;m off to download some PDFs now. http://www.bu.edu/hasselmo/HasselmoMcClelland.pdf</description>
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Cheers Steve Senior. I&#8217;m supposed to be working, but memory recall and models of the formation of semantic memory seem much more interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>Apparently, &#8220;recent functional MRI (fMRI) results suggest that the human thalamus is involved during semantic memory recall.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=122967" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=122967</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m off to download some PDFs now. <a href="http://www.bu.edu/hasselmo/HasselmoMcClelland.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bu.edu/hasselmo/HasselmoMcClelland.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16967</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously? way cool. take a pic with your camera phone or something, they&#039;re the new pocket photocopiers. to replace the, er, previous pocket photocopiers which were a bit bulkier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously? way cool. take a pic with your camera phone or something, they&#8217;re the new pocket photocopiers. to replace the, er, previous pocket photocopiers which were a bit bulkier.</p>
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		<title>By: stever</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16966</link>
		<dc:creator>stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliantly - this  story features in this week&#039;s OK magazine (or it might have been Hello) 

surely a Bad science first?

dissapointingly there is no photo of ben welcoming you into his camden hovel, infact he is refered to only as &#039;a guardian journlaist&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliantly &#8211; this  story features in this week&#8217;s OK magazine (or it might have been Hello) </p>
<p>surely a Bad science first?</p>
<p>dissapointingly there is no photo of ben welcoming you into his camden hovel, infact he is refered to only as &#8216;a guardian journlaist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Senior</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16963</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough then, I take it back. I&#039;m sure HM could tell you the capital of the USA, and possibly where he learned it (is he still alive?). Anyway, I really like the idea that you may have mentally linked &#039;brain damage&#039; or &#039;cirrhosis of the liver&#039; and the Hobgoblin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough then, I take it back. I&#8217;m sure HM could tell you the capital of the USA, and possibly where he learned it (is he still alive?). Anyway, I really like the idea that you may have mentally linked &#8216;brain damage&#8217; or &#8216;cirrhosis of the liver&#8217; and the Hobgoblin.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16960</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;flaky humanities graduates who run the media&quot; is a longstanding in joke with myself and i will never let it lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;flaky humanities graduates who run the media&#8221; is a longstanding in joke with myself and i will never let it lie.</p>
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		<title>By: spinglespangle</title>
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		<dc:creator>spinglespangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wardin, if you proudly believe in the scientific process, then that makes you a good humanities graduate, and not a flaky one, I reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wardin, if you proudly believe in the scientific process, then that makes you a good humanities graduate, and not a flaky one, I reckon.</p>
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		<title>By: wardin</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16957</link>
		<dc:creator>wardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with jamess about the comment &quot;flaky humanities graduates, who wear their ignorance of science like a badge of honour on their sleeves&quot; : )

The problem is &quot;spin&quot; not humanities, critical thinking is a requirement of humanities and science educations equally. While we are making ad hominem attacks shouldn&#039;t the &#039;scientists&#039; who however naively allow their authority to be used in such campaigns be held more accountable? Think, approve and clarify your expectations prior to print rather than making assertions after the fact.

Maybe we need more ethics education for the science graduates ; )

Long time fan from the US and a flaky humanities graduate who PROUDLY believes in the scientific process!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with jamess about the comment &#8220;flaky humanities graduates, who wear their ignorance of science like a badge of honour on their sleeves&#8221; : )</p>
<p>The problem is &#8220;spin&#8221; not humanities, critical thinking is a requirement of humanities and science educations equally. While we are making ad hominem attacks shouldn&#8217;t the &#8217;scientists&#8217; who however naively allow their authority to be used in such campaigns be held more accountable? Think, approve and clarify your expectations prior to print rather than making assertions after the fact.</p>
<p>Maybe we need more ethics education for the science graduates ; )</p>
<p>Long time fan from the US and a flaky humanities graduate who PROUDLY believes in the scientific process!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16954</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mm interesting question. it was actually more episodic, subjectively, i was totally back in AS latin class. that may be how i remembered. in my head i had the entirety of preclinical medicine stored in various spurious geographical locations up and down the cowley road in oxford, at one stage.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm interesting question. it was actually more episodic, subjectively, i was totally back in AS latin class. that may be how i remembered. in my head i had the entirety of preclinical medicine stored in various spurious geographical locations up and down the cowley road in oxford, at one stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Senior</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2007/09/clarion-communications-respond-on-the-rigged-jessica-alba-wiggle/comment-page-1/#comment-16950</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic and pedantic, but I didn&#039;t think the hippocampus mediates recall of long-term semantic memory.

I worry about the sample group of volunteers you might get for your penis plethysmography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic and pedantic, but I didn&#8217;t think the hippocampus mediates recall of long-term semantic memory.</p>
<p>I worry about the sample group of volunteers you might get for your penis plethysmography.</p>
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		<title>By: Despard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Despard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there&#039;s a grant waiting to be written! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there&#8217;s a grant waiting to be written! <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually i disagree. if someone did a comprehensive study looking at subjective pleasure, brain activation or, i dont know, penis plethysmography from subjects looking at different animated stick women each with a different gait, and actually derived some meaningful ideas about what made a gait &quot;sexy&quot;, then i would find that at least passingly interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually i disagree. if someone did a comprehensive study looking at subjective pleasure, brain activation or, i dont know, penis plethysmography from subjects looking at different animated stick women each with a different gait, and actually derived some meaningful ideas about what made a gait &#8220;sexy&#8221;, then i would find that at least passingly interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: khenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>khenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in other news, pink elephants have been discovered in Africa. 

I mean, c&#039;mon. 

I don&#039;t know many people who rely on publications like the one in question for valid scientific news. It is quite sad though, because the general public is going to pick up their local publications and read what they believe to be articles actually written by scientists (or they at least got their factual information from a scientist). When in reality, most of it is crap or it&#039;s a generalized article borrowing from many other sources &amp; rehashed into someone&#039;s unsupported &quot;scientific&quot; opinion. 

That being said, I dont&#039; know how many people would actually be interested in the stats used to determine the sexiest wiggle, valid or falsified. 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in other news, pink elephants have been discovered in Africa. </p>
<p>I mean, c&#8217;mon. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know many people who rely on publications like the one in question for valid scientific news. It is quite sad though, because the general public is going to pick up their local publications and read what they believe to be articles actually written by scientists (or they at least got their factual information from a scientist). When in reality, most of it is crap or it&#8217;s a generalized article borrowing from many other sources &amp; rehashed into someone&#8217;s unsupported &#8220;scientific&#8221; opinion. </p>
<p>That being said, I dont&#8217; know how many people would actually be interested in the stats used to determine the sexiest wiggle, valid or falsified. </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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