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	<title>Comments on: In which I attempt to become, like, poetic.</title>
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		<title>By: wokao123</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-28255</link>
		<dc:creator>wokao123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biker</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20863</link>
		<dc:creator>biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!<br />
That&#8217;s<br />
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		<title>By: biker</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20862</link>
		<dc:creator>biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeell, MAYBE I can conceive of a marginal advantage in sending your 1&#039;s &amp; 0&#039;s down super-spiffy cable (actually, no I can&#039;t..), but only if your source is connected using this connector,http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=35921&amp;doy=25m5&amp;ma=Optical%20Leads#overview gold plated for &quot;a better connection.&quot; 
Er, that&#039;s an OPTICAL connector by the way........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeell, MAYBE I can conceive of a marginal advantage in sending your 1&#8217;s &amp; 0&#8217;s down super-spiffy cable (actually, no I can&#8217;t..), but only if your source is connected using this connector,http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=35921&amp;doy=25m5&amp;ma=Optical%20Leads#overview gold plated for &#8220;a better connection.&#8221;<br />
Er, that&#8217;s an OPTICAL connector by the way&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20825</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey. Nadine can&#039;t even get the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scientific facts&lt;/a&gt; that can be cited to support her case right. It beggars belief, really. 

Like I say, remember when you come to vote next time that the Tories initially put Nadine on the Parliamentary Education and Skills Committee. Not that she doesn&#039;t badly need some (scientific) education, but I fear it would be wasted on her.

As has been repeatedly observed, if you are &quot;not anti-abortion&quot;, but genuinely think 24 wks is too late a limit, than your position should logically be to put in measures to increase access to termination early in pregnancy. This is the position of, e.g., &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/05/01/ftbaby101.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prof Stuart Campbell&lt;/a&gt; the 4D ultrasound man. I don&#039;t agre with him but at least the view is logically consistent.

If you don&#039;t support better access and services, both for those seeking terminations in the first trimester and for contraception, the morning after pill etc etc, and don&#039;t support more and better sex education, and so on, then anyone with any nous will justifiably conclude you are flat-out anti-abortion, whatever bullshit and flannel you put out to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey. Nadine can&#8217;t even get the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart" rel="nofollow">scientific facts</a> that can be cited to support her case right. It beggars belief, really. </p>
<p>Like I say, remember when you come to vote next time that the Tories initially put Nadine on the Parliamentary Education and Skills Committee. Not that she doesn&#8217;t badly need some (scientific) education, but I fear it would be wasted on her.</p>
<p>As has been repeatedly observed, if you are &#8220;not anti-abortion&#8221;, but genuinely think 24 wks is too late a limit, than your position should logically be to put in measures to increase access to termination early in pregnancy. This is the position of, e.g., <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/05/01/ftbaby101.xml" rel="nofollow">Prof Stuart Campbell</a> the 4D ultrasound man. I don&#8217;t agre with him but at least the view is logically consistent.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t support better access and services, both for those seeking terminations in the first trimester and for contraception, the morning after pill etc etc, and don&#8217;t support more and better sex education, and so on, then anyone with any nous will justifiably conclude you are flat-out anti-abortion, whatever bullshit and flannel you put out to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: used to be jdc</title>
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		<dc:creator>used to be jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;I just heard Nadine Dorries on the Today program&quot;

I raised an eyebrow when she claimed to actually be pro-abortion and said she was only against late abortion. Which is peculiar, because previously she has said &quot;I believe life begins and ends with the first and last heartbeat which is around 9-12 weeks&quot; and &quot;you are right about one thing, I do want to go lower than 20 weeks - I would settle for the European average of 13 weeks, but would prefer 9.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/16/what-is-nadine-dorries-mps-real-agenda-pt-4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/05/08/oh-what-a-tangled-web-2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ministry of Truth&lt;/a&gt;

Originally on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/284926/abortion-lobby-on-the-back-foo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spectator&lt;/a&gt;-hosted blog piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;I just heard Nadine Dorries on the Today program&#8221;</p>
<p>I raised an eyebrow when she claimed to actually be pro-abortion and said she was only against late abortion. Which is peculiar, because previously she has said &#8220;I believe life begins and ends with the first and last heartbeat which is around 9-12 weeks&#8221; and &#8220;you are right about one thing, I do want to go lower than 20 weeks &#8211; I would settle for the European average of 13 weeks, but would prefer 9.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/16/what-is-nadine-dorries-mps-real-agenda-pt-4" rel="nofollow">Liberal Conspiracy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/05/08/oh-what-a-tangled-web-2" rel="nofollow">Ministry of Truth</a></p>
<p>Originally on a <a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/284926/abortion-lobby-on-the-back-foo" rel="nofollow">Spectator</a>-hosted blog piece.</p>
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		<title>By: DrJon</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrJon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 07:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard Nadine Dorries on the Today program. Apparently they lost the bill because the science in England isn&#039;t as good as elsewhere: &quot;science is better in other countries&quot;. I didn&#039;t realise &quot;science&quot; changed depending on which  country you were in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard Nadine Dorries on the Today program. Apparently they lost the bill because the science in England isn&#8217;t as good as elsewhere: &#8220;science is better in other countries&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t realise &#8220;science&#8221; changed depending on which  country you were in.</p>
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		<title>By: hexhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Physics class a couple of years ago my teacher checked his magic book of materials, he found that Gold was more or less as conductive as Copper, so it&#039;s only main benefit is that it wont rust like Copper does, but then who&#039;s ever seen a green scart connector?

The best metal for a connector is apparantly Silver, but then that&#039;s so expensive that it wouldn&#039;t be worth the care required to keep it from rusting up.

 - Deus X Machina -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Physics class a couple of years ago my teacher checked his magic book of materials, he found that Gold was more or less as conductive as Copper, so it&#8217;s only main benefit is that it wont rust like Copper does, but then who&#8217;s ever seen a green scart connector?</p>
<p>The best metal for a connector is apparantly Silver, but then that&#8217;s so expensive that it wouldn&#8217;t be worth the care required to keep it from rusting up.</p>
<p> &#8211; Deus X Machina -</p>
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		<title>By: DSThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i agree with the points in the article i did feel the urge to reply to &quot;Briantist&quot; re his comment on the £100 hdmi cable

I work for an electronics retailer (and no it isnt comet) and, mainly by experimentation to relive boredom, can confirm that more expensive av cables do actually make a difference to the picture and sound output.

Although the signal sent down a hdmi cable is digital there is a visible difference between a cheap standard one and a medium quality cable. However i do agree any cable priced over around £30 is a waste of money as the increased quality from there on is negligible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i agree with the points in the article i did feel the urge to reply to &#8220;Briantist&#8221; re his comment on the £100 hdmi cable</p>
<p>I work for an electronics retailer (and no it isnt comet) and, mainly by experimentation to relive boredom, can confirm that more expensive av cables do actually make a difference to the picture and sound output.</p>
<p>Although the signal sent down a hdmi cable is digital there is a visible difference between a cheap standard one and a medium quality cable. However i do agree any cable priced over around £30 is a waste of money as the increased quality from there on is negligible.</p>
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		<title>By: snoozeofreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>snoozeofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the animal human hybrids but I&#039;m not quite sure what is the point of characterising moral unease about them as &quot;intuitive&quot;. It possibly is, but then the feeling that motor neuron disease sufferers should be helped is also intuitive.

In fact the only people who could plausibly argue that their position is not intuitive are those of a fundamentalist religious bent who take a literal interpretation of their sacred texts and will stick to that interpretation even if it runs counter to intuition.

The rest of us have to live with the fact that our moral beliefs are ultimately based on gut feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on the animal human hybrids but I&#8217;m not quite sure what is the point of characterising moral unease about them as &#8220;intuitive&#8221;. It possibly is, but then the feeling that motor neuron disease sufferers should be helped is also intuitive.</p>
<p>In fact the only people who could plausibly argue that their position is not intuitive are those of a fundamentalist religious bent who take a literal interpretation of their sacred texts and will stick to that interpretation even if it runs counter to intuition.</p>
<p>The rest of us have to live with the fact that our moral beliefs are ultimately based on gut feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: outeast</title>
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		<dc:creator>outeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendations, Ben. I&#039;m always sceptical of these audiophile gadgets, but with your endorsement behind them I finally decided to upgrade my gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendations, Ben. I&#8217;m always sceptical of these audiophile gadgets, but with your endorsement behind them I finally decided to upgrade my gear.</p>
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		<title>By: brookster</title>
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		<dc:creator>brookster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the daddy of all daft audiophile equipment was the Pear Anjou speaker cables: http://snipurl.com/29o1l

A three-foot pair, sir? Only $2,750.

&quot;Simply put these are very danceable cables ... Great swing and pace — these cables smack that right on the nose big time.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the daddy of all daft audiophile equipment was the Pear Anjou speaker cables: <a href="http://snipurl.com/29o1l" rel="nofollow">http://snipurl.com/29o1l</a></p>
<p>A three-foot pair, sir? Only $2,750.</p>
<p>&#8220;Simply put these are very danceable cables &#8230; Great swing and pace — these cables smack that right on the nose big time.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mch</title>
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		<dc:creator>mch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, bear in mind that some cables are indeed much better than others. 

There does come a point - especially with digital - that you&#039;ve got maximum transmission rates and any more won&#039;t get those 0s and 1s any more 0ish or 1ish. 

But very high speed 0s and 1s smear and distort and crossover resulting in re-sends or corrupted signals if you don&#039;t have good enough hardware, or you bundle cables together without proper shielding etc.

(Any 80s geek can tell you what speed your dialup is from listening to the modem connect)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, bear in mind that some cables are indeed much better than others. </p>
<p>There does come a point &#8211; especially with digital &#8211; that you&#8217;ve got maximum transmission rates and any more won&#8217;t get those 0s and 1s any more 0ish or 1ish. </p>
<p>But very high speed 0s and 1s smear and distort and crossover resulting in re-sends or corrupted signals if you don&#8217;t have good enough hardware, or you bundle cables together without proper shielding etc.</p>
<p>(Any 80s geek can tell you what speed your dialup is from listening to the modem connect)</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m easily amused but I like the way the Music Direct lot offer you a larger image of their supports for the price of a click and then show you two smaller images but surrounded by lots of white space. Perhaps if I had used the Shakti on-lines that would have helped?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m easily amused but I like the way the Music Direct lot offer you a larger image of their supports for the price of a click and then show you two smaller images but surrounded by lots of white space. Perhaps if I had used the Shakti on-lines that would have helped?</p>
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		<title>By: garyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>garyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 01:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe your comments on Shakti Innovations are a little premature. OK, reducing chaotic sound reflections is just crazy, but the guy in the picture seems to have invented the Hallowicket. If England were allowed to use these while batting, those wavy bits might just let a few more balls past. Come to think of it, a wavy Hallobat to reduce the number of edges might just see us beat New Zealand and South Africa this summer. Isn&#039;t science wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe your comments on Shakti Innovations are a little premature. OK, reducing chaotic sound reflections is just crazy, but the guy in the picture seems to have invented the Hallowicket. If England were allowed to use these while batting, those wavy bits might just let a few more balls past. Come to think of it, a wavy Hallobat to reduce the number of edges might just see us beat New Zealand and South Africa this summer. Isn&#8217;t science wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: briantist</title>
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		<dc:creator>briantist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amuses me the most about the group (i) MPs is that they all claim they want to use express THEIR own opinion, but strangely they then all carry the same party line of what is, technically, a foreign government (of the Vatican City).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amuses me the most about the group (i) MPs is that they all claim they want to use express THEIR own opinion, but strangely they then all carry the same party line of what is, technically, a foreign government (of the Vatican City).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Goldacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Goldacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah reading hansard can be absolutely fascinating, and moreso because of the variety of styles. sometimes you find people delivering impressive and thoughtful disquisitions on important topics that are well evidenced, well argued, essay long, and all done verbally, but they do this alongside morons who hector like old crones at a hanging and make interjections with all the substance of a grumpy five year old. it must be very weird to be in the first group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah reading hansard can be absolutely fascinating, and moreso because of the variety of styles. sometimes you find people delivering impressive and thoughtful disquisitions on important topics that are well evidenced, well argued, essay long, and all done verbally, but they do this alongside morons who hector like old crones at a hanging and make interjections with all the substance of a grumpy five year old. it must be very weird to be in the first group.</p>
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		<title>By: jackdripper</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20784</link>
		<dc:creator>jackdripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colour me surprised to find my MP (John Bercow, Tory) being pretty impressive in dismissing  the arguments about slippery slopes, sticking points etc. And saying that the benefits to some really unfortunate patients should outweigh the abstract moralising. Although I hear he&#039;s planning to cross the floor at some point, so perhaps he&#039;s just sucking up to Gordo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colour me surprised to find my MP (John Bercow, Tory) being pretty impressive in dismissing  the arguments about slippery slopes, sticking points etc. And saying that the benefits to some really unfortunate patients should outweigh the abstract moralising. Although I hear he&#8217;s planning to cross the floor at some point, so perhaps he&#8217;s just sucking up to Gordo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20783</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;to misquote and misuse the scientific and medical evidence to make soundbites for their ideological POV&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In any other walk of life we would call it lying. Why are they so fond of it because &quot;bearing false witness&quot;, as I understand it, is something despised by their sky fairy leader (whose own existence depends on bearing false witness - funnily enough). It is written in stone, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>to misquote and misuse the scientific and medical evidence to make soundbites for their ideological POV</p></blockquote>
<p>In any other walk of life we would call it lying. Why are they so fond of it because &#8220;bearing false witness&#8221;, as I understand it, is something despised by their sky fairy leader (whose own existence depends on bearing false witness &#8211; funnily enough). It is written in stone, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20782</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parliamentary debate on the bill is an interesting, if long, read.

What comes across mainly is a duly serious discussion about something serious. It actually restored my sometimes wavering belief in the idea that the people in the Commons are really doing, and capable of doing, the job they are elected for. This is because the debate noticeably transcends the political party affiliations of the MPs speaking.

What does come over is that the opposition to the bill consists of two groups of people: (i) the catholic and evangelical Christian MPs, who oppose all embryo research - even what is currently legal - and all abortion; and (ii) the Conservative front bench - see Andrew Lansley&#039;s speech, presumably made with his leader&#039;s approbation - which is cynically jumping onboard with (i) to embarrass the Government, most particularly over the 24-wk limit. 

What further comes across is that many of the gang under (i), like Nadine Dorries, are, as ever, prepared to misquote and misuse the scientific and medical evidence to make soundbites for their ideological POV. And again, the Tory front bench is prepared to re-quote these lines for political advantage. Feel free to draw your own inferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parliamentary debate on the bill is an interesting, if long, read.</p>
<p>What comes across mainly is a duly serious discussion about something serious. It actually restored my sometimes wavering belief in the idea that the people in the Commons are really doing, and capable of doing, the job they are elected for. This is because the debate noticeably transcends the political party affiliations of the MPs speaking.</p>
<p>What does come over is that the opposition to the bill consists of two groups of people: (i) the catholic and evangelical Christian MPs, who oppose all embryo research &#8211; even what is currently legal &#8211; and all abortion; and (ii) the Conservative front bench &#8211; see Andrew Lansley&#8217;s speech, presumably made with his leader&#8217;s approbation &#8211; which is cynically jumping onboard with (i) to embarrass the Government, most particularly over the 24-wk limit. </p>
<p>What further comes across is that many of the gang under (i), like Nadine Dorries, are, as ever, prepared to misquote and misuse the scientific and medical evidence to make soundbites for their ideological POV. And again, the Tory front bench is prepared to re-quote these lines for political advantage. Feel free to draw your own inferences.</p>
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		<title>By: jodyaberdein</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/05/in-which-i-attempt-to-become-like-poetic/comment-page-1/#comment-20781</link>
		<dc:creator>jodyaberdein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes but think of the babies.
The speach is a gem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes but think of the babies.<br />
The speach is a gem.</p>
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