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	<title>Comments on: Think yourself thin&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: psychgradmum</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-27634</link>
		<dc:creator>psychgradmum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the ladies in question gave it more &#039;gusto&#039; knowing that they were doing themselves some good by just working. Maybe perhaps?  I know if I&#039;m in a better mood I tend to do the housework etc with a bit more energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the ladies in question gave it more &#8216;gusto&#8217; knowing that they were doing themselves some good by just working. Maybe perhaps?  I know if I&#8217;m in a better mood I tend to do the housework etc with a bit more energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-22053</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a good bike rear view mirror - with a gentle convex curve, but not like the back of a spoon - and I reckon you&#039;ll be all right.  Lights essential, fluorescent vest optional, Poundland sell &#039;em I think.

Last night I was reading about the Electra &quot;Townie&quot; bike design, an American cruiser modified to provide the convenience of resting the foot flat on the ground while stationary.  On a normal correctly adjusted bike it&#039;s tip-toe.  But I was doing this because under 220 pounds weight  plus backpack, the frame of my Electra Cruiser snapped away where the seat-post is gripped, after several years of good service.  In fact, I&#039;m assured that it has a &quot;lifetime guarantee&quot; and will be replaced free, leaving only the cost of paying someone to put every other piece of the bike onto the new frame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a good bike rear view mirror &#8211; with a gentle convex curve, but not like the back of a spoon &#8211; and I reckon you&#8217;ll be all right.  Lights essential, fluorescent vest optional, Poundland sell &#8216;em I think.</p>
<p>Last night I was reading about the Electra &#8220;Townie&#8221; bike design, an American cruiser modified to provide the convenience of resting the foot flat on the ground while stationary.  On a normal correctly adjusted bike it&#8217;s tip-toe.  But I was doing this because under 220 pounds weight  plus backpack, the frame of my Electra Cruiser snapped away where the seat-post is gripped, after several years of good service.  In fact, I&#8217;m assured that it has a &#8220;lifetime guarantee&#8221; and will be replaced free, leaving only the cost of paying someone to put every other piece of the bike onto the new frame.</p>
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		<title>By: max.dobberstein</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-22043</link>
		<dc:creator>max.dobberstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch much telly. When I do I don&#039;t watch sport.  I don&#039;t care for beer.  I don&#039;t subscribe to a gym.  I would like to cycle -- or better yet, walk -- to work but I expect I would be run over as there are no bike paths around here.

Does that mean I am not fat or that I am not a person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch much telly. When I do I don&#8217;t watch sport.  I don&#8217;t care for beer.  I don&#8217;t subscribe to a gym.  I would like to cycle &#8212; or better yet, walk &#8212; to work but I expect I would be run over as there are no bike paths around here.</p>
<p>Does that mean I am not fat or that I am not a person?</p>
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		<title>By: BryanKitts1</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21923</link>
		<dc:creator>BryanKitts1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit surprised there was no improvement in the control group: if I was weighed, quizzed about my poor diet/alcohol consumption/lack of exercise, and told I would be weighed again in a month, I&#039;d probably try to cut down my fried mars bars (if only for that month).

I also don&#039;t understand how the initial observation is &quot;not unusual&quot;. Isn&#039;t it effectively saying either that they&#039;re burning more calories than they&#039;re eating, or that the measurements or model are seriously flawed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised there was no improvement in the control group: if I was weighed, quizzed about my poor diet/alcohol consumption/lack of exercise, and told I would be weighed again in a month, I&#8217;d probably try to cut down my fried mars bars (if only for that month).</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand how the initial observation is &#8220;not unusual&#8221;. Isn&#8217;t it effectively saying either that they&#8217;re burning more calories than they&#8217;re eating, or that the measurements or model are seriously flawed?</p>
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		<title>By: used to be jdc</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21871</link>
		<dc:creator>used to be jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diotima -
Ooh, ooh, I&#039;ve heard of those pink patch things. A blogger got their ads taken off myspace. Apparently, they&#039;ve been banned from facebook too.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://theblogthatatemanhattan.blogspot.com/2008/08/pink-patch-ads-pulled-on-aol-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TBtAM&lt;/a&gt;

and &lt;a href=&quot;http://theblogthatatemanhattan.blogspot.com/2008/04/pink-patch-irresponsible-advertising-on.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;ve also seen a page advertising a dietary supplement as a cancer drug on &lt;a href=&quot;http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/dietary-supplements-advertised-as-cancer-drugs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myspace&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diotima -<br />
Ooh, ooh, I&#8217;ve heard of those pink patch things. A blogger got their ads taken off myspace. Apparently, they&#8217;ve been banned from facebook too.</p>
<p><a href="http://theblogthatatemanhattan.blogspot.com/2008/08/pink-patch-ads-pulled-on-aol-and.html" rel="nofollow">TBtAM</a></p>
<p>and <a href="http://theblogthatatemanhattan.blogspot.com/2008/04/pink-patch-irresponsible-advertising-on.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also seen a page advertising a dietary supplement as a cancer drug on <a href="http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/dietary-supplements-advertised-as-cancer-drugs/" rel="nofollow">myspace</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Diotima</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21870</link>
		<dc:creator>Diotima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bother to think yourself thin when you can buy and use the &#039;pink patch&#039;? This novel snake  oil contains magic substances (bladderwrack, eye of newt etc) which when placed on yout skin will make you lose weight painlessly.  It is being marketed to gullible women via hotmail accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother to think yourself thin when you can buy and use the &#8216;pink patch&#8217;? This novel snake  oil contains magic substances (bladderwrack, eye of newt etc) which when placed on yout skin will make you lose weight painlessly.  It is being marketed to gullible women via hotmail accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous85</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21869</link>
		<dc:creator>eponymous85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aspiring psychologist, the last sentence of that article made me shed a little tear of joy. There&#039;s hope yet. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aspiring psychologist, the last sentence of that article made me shed a little tear of joy. There&#8217;s hope yet. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Horder</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Horder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thegrouchybeast : Re: BMI, it&#039;s a bit more complicated than that

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16996880?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thegrouchybeast : Re: BMI, it&#8217;s a bit more complicated than that</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16996880?" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16996880?</a></p>
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		<title>By: fifecircle</title>
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		<dc:creator>fifecircle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to find out if moves were taken to eliminate the Hawthorne Effect - (i.e. management takes an interest so moral improves) or was the control group just ignored.

After all the Hawthorne Effect generally results in an improvement in productivity which in this case would be more thorough and hence more vigorous cleaning. 



e.g. 1) advertising healthy eating and the other factors which would ideally be eliminated - in both environments.
2) pointing out the wonderful safety is in the hotel
3) (to go for the classic Hawthorne observation) taking equal care to explain a wonderous lighting levels initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to find out if moves were taken to eliminate the Hawthorne Effect &#8211; (i.e. management takes an interest so moral improves) or was the control group just ignored.</p>
<p>After all the Hawthorne Effect generally results in an improvement in productivity which in this case would be more thorough and hence more vigorous cleaning. </p>
<p>e.g. 1) advertising healthy eating and the other factors which would ideally be eliminated &#8211; in both environments.<br />
2) pointing out the wonderful safety is in the hotel<br />
3) (to go for the classic Hawthorne observation) taking equal care to explain a wonderous lighting levels initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: thegrouchybeast</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21857</link>
		<dc:creator>thegrouchybeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;another looking at elderly people found that those who perceive their health to be poor are 6 times more likely to die than those who perceive their health to be excellent, regardless of how healthy they actually are. Once again this goes to show the danger of relying on self-report data for health research.&lt;/i&gt;

Soooo...

People&#039;s perceptions of their own state of health are a better prediction of their risk of death than whatever collection of surrogate markers are being used by the study to determine &#039;health&#039;.  And yet, somehow it&#039;s the people who are wrong, not the markers?  I know that when a model fails to match reality, normal practise is for scientists to blame reality, but mostly they manage to be a little less blatant about it.

(And, in passing, I tend to regard any study which uses a lower BMI as a marker for &#039;health&#039; as automatically suspect.  Overweight/obese BMI categories are consistently associated with a lower risk of death.  I hope that Bad Science knows better than to buy into the trend for aesthetics-based medicine.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>another looking at elderly people found that those who perceive their health to be poor are 6 times more likely to die than those who perceive their health to be excellent, regardless of how healthy they actually are. Once again this goes to show the danger of relying on self-report data for health research.</i></p>
<p>Soooo&#8230;</p>
<p>People&#8217;s perceptions of their own state of health are a better prediction of their risk of death than whatever collection of surrogate markers are being used by the study to determine &#8216;health&#8217;.  And yet, somehow it&#8217;s the people who are wrong, not the markers?  I know that when a model fails to match reality, normal practise is for scientists to blame reality, but mostly they manage to be a little less blatant about it.</p>
<p>(And, in passing, I tend to regard any study which uses a lower BMI as a marker for &#8216;health&#8217; as automatically suspect.  Overweight/obese BMI categories are consistently associated with a lower risk of death.  I hope that Bad Science knows better than to buy into the trend for aesthetics-based medicine.)</p>
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		<title>By: chltx</title>
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		<dc:creator>chltx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other observations:

1) Dietary recall is notoriously poor. So much so that unless you have detailed contemporaneous diet logs, dietary recall is essentially worthless. Even contemporaneous diet logs are only reliable if they are kept by somebody *watching* the subject, and not by the subject. If you are not weighing and measuring, you are guessing, and your guess is no better than anyone else&#039;s.

2) Most of the &#039;studies&#039; I have read on nutrition would not get a passing grade in a rigorous science course. My favorite along that line was a study (in a peer-reviewed journal, no less) in which the &#039;researchers&#039; removed the sugar from the diet of one group, and concluded from the observed health improvements that animal protein was bad for diabetics. I kid thee not. Modern nutritional education is not far enough removed from religion, and generally suffers from massive confirmation bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other observations:</p>
<p>1) Dietary recall is notoriously poor. So much so that unless you have detailed contemporaneous diet logs, dietary recall is essentially worthless. Even contemporaneous diet logs are only reliable if they are kept by somebody *watching* the subject, and not by the subject. If you are not weighing and measuring, you are guessing, and your guess is no better than anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>2) Most of the &#8217;studies&#8217; I have read on nutrition would not get a passing grade in a rigorous science course. My favorite along that line was a study (in a peer-reviewed journal, no less) in which the &#8216;researchers&#8217; removed the sugar from the diet of one group, and concluded from the observed health improvements that animal protein was bad for diabetics. I kid thee not. Modern nutritional education is not far enough removed from religion, and generally suffers from massive confirmation bias.</p>
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		<title>By: chltx</title>
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		<dc:creator>chltx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If anything, I should have thought that it would show the opposite.&quot; -dw

All of the interesting bits of science start out with, &quot;hmmm... that&#039;s strange...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If anything, I should have thought that it would show the opposite.&#8221; -dw</p>
<p>All of the interesting bits of science start out with, &#8220;hmmm&#8230; that&#8217;s strange&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Raelor</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21840</link>
		<dc:creator>Raelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment 27:

Firstly, you were beaten to your hi-fucking-larious point by eyalbd at number 5. 

Secondly, it&#039;s pretty clear that Ben meant &#039;likely to die during the period studied&#039;. 

Perhaps your crusade for accurate writing would be better directed against those who deliberately fudge numbers in order to mislead people and not against the author of a web blog which is, well... on your side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment 27:</p>
<p>Firstly, you were beaten to your hi-fucking-larious point by eyalbd at number 5. </p>
<p>Secondly, it&#8217;s pretty clear that Ben meant &#8216;likely to die during the period studied&#8217;. </p>
<p>Perhaps your crusade for accurate writing would be better directed against those who deliberately fudge numbers in order to mislead people and not against the author of a web blog which is, well&#8230; on your side.</p>
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		<title>By: cannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment 26:

&quot;Quick pedantic point: isn’t everyone equally likely to die?&quot;

Check comment 13. Wonder what comment 39 will be about.

And no response from the guru about bad use of numbers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment 26:</p>
<p>&#8220;Quick pedantic point: isn’t everyone equally likely to die?&#8221;</p>
<p>Check comment 13. Wonder what comment 39 will be about.</p>
<p>And no response from the guru about bad use of numbers</p>
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		<title>By: sam_chew75</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam_chew75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and another looking at elderly people found that those who perceive their health to be poor are 6 times more likely to die than those who perceive their health to be excellent.&quot;

Quick pedantic point: isn&#039;t everyone equally likely to die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and another looking at elderly people found that those who perceive their health to be poor are 6 times more likely to die than those who perceive their health to be excellent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quick pedantic point: isn&#8217;t everyone equally likely to die?</p>
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		<title>By: healthydistrust</title>
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		<dc:creator>healthydistrust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The researchers did ask about diet:
&#039; ...the subjects reported their habits had not changed over the past 30 days with respect to how much they ate (including servings of sugary foods and vegetables) and how much they drank (caffeine, alcohol, and water)...neither increased exercise nor decreased caloric intake was reported by the subjects.&#039;
And they also cautioned:
&#039;Of course, it is possible that the room attendants actually did change their behavior—actually did cut back on calories, improve the quality of the food they ate, or work harder or more energetically—but did not report such changes. However, previous research has found it very difficult to change behavior of this sort (Deutschman, 2005). Thus, even if these behavioral changes did occur as a result of the intervention, that too would make these results interesting&#039;, and it would, too, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The researchers did ask about diet:<br />
&#8216; &#8230;the subjects reported their habits had not changed over the past 30 days with respect to how much they ate (including servings of sugary foods and vegetables) and how much they drank (caffeine, alcohol, and water)&#8230;neither increased exercise nor decreased caloric intake was reported by the subjects.&#8217;<br />
And they also cautioned:<br />
&#8216;Of course, it is possible that the room attendants actually did change their behavior—actually did cut back on calories, improve the quality of the food they ate, or work harder or more energetically—but did not report such changes. However, previous research has found it very difficult to change behavior of this sort (Deutschman, 2005). Thus, even if these behavioral changes did occur as a result of the intervention, that too would make these results interesting&#8217;, and it would, too, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Twm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really interesting story, thanks Ben.

I have seen the behavioural pattern below in family and friends:

After doing exercise, many tend to stay off the sugary foods/deserts for fear of undoing the good work of exercise. 
But perversely, at times when they feel that they are not getting enough exercise are more likely to indulge perhaps in the belief that their health drive will start the following week.

Convincing workers that they are exercising vigorously is likely to influence self esteem and dietary choices(small changes such as putting less food on the plate might be hard to detect).

The other factor is how it changes the workers&#039; attitude to their job.
A worker who sees an extra benefit from the job in the form of exercise may &#039;work out&#039; more effectively - modify how they do their job (e.g hoover more vigorously).

And finally, a worker who feels knackered and sore after a shift, instead of feeling achy and in need of a sofa and comfort food, may when informed feel a sense of reward from the aches and take better care of their diet and maybe take other forms of exercise (such as walking to shop rather than taking the car).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really interesting story, thanks Ben.</p>
<p>I have seen the behavioural pattern below in family and friends:</p>
<p>After doing exercise, many tend to stay off the sugary foods/deserts for fear of undoing the good work of exercise.<br />
But perversely, at times when they feel that they are not getting enough exercise are more likely to indulge perhaps in the belief that their health drive will start the following week.</p>
<p>Convincing workers that they are exercising vigorously is likely to influence self esteem and dietary choices(small changes such as putting less food on the plate might be hard to detect).</p>
<p>The other factor is how it changes the workers&#8217; attitude to their job.<br />
A worker who sees an extra benefit from the job in the form of exercise may &#8216;work out&#8217; more effectively &#8211; modify how they do their job (e.g hoover more vigorously).</p>
<p>And finally, a worker who feels knackered and sore after a shift, instead of feeling achy and in need of a sofa and comfort food, may when informed feel a sense of reward from the aches and take better care of their diet and maybe take other forms of exercise (such as walking to shop rather than taking the car).</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Horder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Horder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>curlyfries : Do you have a reference for her beliefs on AIDS and cancer etc.?

I found this article :
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=20000701-000028&amp;page=1

In which she says that our beliefs about disease, such as breast cancer, can (directly or indirectly) affect our health. But she never says that disease is caused by our belief in it. It looks like fairly standard &quot;Think positive!&quot; advice to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>curlyfries : Do you have a reference for her beliefs on AIDS and cancer etc.?</p>
<p>I found this article :<br />
<a href="http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=20000701-000028&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=20000701-000028&amp;page=1</a></p>
<p>In which she says that our beliefs about disease, such as breast cancer, can (directly or indirectly) affect our health. But she never says that disease is caused by our belief in it. It looks like fairly standard &#8220;Think positive!&#8221; advice to me.</p>
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		<title>By: curlyfries</title>
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		<dc:creator>curlyfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a copy of the paper yet but I should at least point out that Ellen Langer believes that all health conditions, including AIDs and Cancer, are caused entirely by our belief in them. She got into trouble for reusing needles in an experiment:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505277

To her, this wasn&#039;t an issue as blood diseases don&#039;t really exist. She is generally regarded as a complete crackpot at Harvard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a copy of the paper yet but I should at least point out that Ellen Langer believes that all health conditions, including AIDs and Cancer, are caused entirely by our belief in them. She got into trouble for reusing needles in an experiment:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505277" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505277</a></p>
<p>To her, this wasn&#8217;t an issue as blood diseases don&#8217;t really exist. She is generally regarded as a complete crackpot at Harvard.</p>
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		<title>By: rogerhyam</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/think-yourself-thin/comment-page-1/#comment-21825</link>
		<dc:creator>rogerhyam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do of course mean a &quot;falsifiable hypothesis&quot; rather than &quot;falsifiable experiment&quot; in my last post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do of course mean a &#8220;falsifiable hypothesis&#8221; rather than &#8220;falsifiable experiment&#8221; in my last post.</p>
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