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	<title>Comments on: You are 80% less likely to die from a meteor landing on your head if you wear a bicycle helmet all day.</title>
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		<title>By: jiang</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ed hardy <a title="ed hardy" href="http://www.edhardyplus.co.uk" rel="nofollow"><strong>ed hardy</strong></a><br />
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		<title>By: paladin</title>
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		<dc:creator>paladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! they should be made to atleast include the word &quot;relative&quot; while giving the big percentage figures of risk reduction!; that should ring some alarm bells for some people at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! they should be made to atleast include the word &#8220;relative&#8221; while giving the big percentage figures of risk reduction!; that should ring some alarm bells for some people at least.</p>
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		<title>By: octavedoctor</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-26972</link>
		<dc:creator>octavedoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, if you see a statistic saying that there has been a 50% reduction in the deaths of cyclists involved in RTAs on a particular stretch of road since the introduction of speed cameras you would be inclined to believe that it is the presence of the speed camera that is responsible for this. However if you were told that in the preceding measurement period of say, a year, there were only 3 RTAs involving cyclists and two deaths. but that in the subsequent measuring period there were 3 RTAs and only one death you might have a different perspective on it. If you were then told that the subsequent measuring period was just three months, instead of the year used previously, you might have yet another perspective. If it then transpired that around 100 cyclists used the road intermittently during weekdays to travel to and from work, resulting in 50000 potential incidents per year then would you still see that 50% as significant evidence of the effect of the speed camera?

The point is that you have to evaluate the significance of the numbers against the background data, rather than in isolation. RRD encourages you to ignore the background data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, if you see a statistic saying that there has been a 50% reduction in the deaths of cyclists involved in RTAs on a particular stretch of road since the introduction of speed cameras you would be inclined to believe that it is the presence of the speed camera that is responsible for this. However if you were told that in the preceding measurement period of say, a year, there were only 3 RTAs involving cyclists and two deaths. but that in the subsequent measuring period there were 3 RTAs and only one death you might have a different perspective on it. If you were then told that the subsequent measuring period was just three months, instead of the year used previously, you might have yet another perspective. If it then transpired that around 100 cyclists used the road intermittently during weekdays to travel to and from work, resulting in 50000 potential incidents per year then would you still see that 50% as significant evidence of the effect of the speed camera?</p>
<p>The point is that you have to evaluate the significance of the numbers against the background data, rather than in isolation. RRD encourages you to ignore the background data.</p>
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		<title>By: quin</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-25606</link>
		<dc:creator>quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once heard the statistic that you&#039;re more likely to be hit by a meteorite than to win the lottery jackpot. plenty of people have won the lottery. nobody has ever been hit by a meteor

Why do they say &quot;meteoric rise. meteors fall, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once heard the statistic that you&#8217;re more likely to be hit by a meteorite than to win the lottery jackpot. plenty of people have won the lottery. nobody has ever been hit by a meteor</p>
<p>Why do they say &#8220;meteoric rise. meteors fall, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kimberg</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22860</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kimberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, in parts of this column you&#039;re doing exactly the same thing as the people you&#039;re criticizing.  Recasting the 54% figure as 0.37 vs. 0.17 indeed makes it seem like a ridiculously tiny difference to people who aren&#039;t used to working with numbers.  You can&#039;t look at a difference of 0.2 and call it small any more than you can look at a 54% reduction and call it large.  In fact, the difference between 0.37 and 0.17 seems like a very enviable effect size to me, and could easily be recast as percentages that would seem so to anyone.

Appealing to statistics like &quot;numbers needed to treat&quot; is potentially very misleading as well.  Both heart attack and stroke often have very severe consequences for quality of life in survivors.  But certainly &quot;saving&quot; one life in 100 is a proportion that is either big or small, depending on the costs (money and side effects) of the treatment to the other 199 folks living on your envelope.

Anyway, playing a little fast and loose, let&#039;s imagine that your risk of heart attack in your lifetime is 30% on placebo, 15% on the drug, and that the same numbers apply to stroke.  Let&#039;s also fantasize that they&#039;re independent.  That would mean you have a 51% chance of experiencing either a stroke or a heart attack or both on placebo, a 28% chance on the drug.  Is that a big enough effect to be meaningful to you?  Ultimately the answer doesn&#039;t depend on what statistic you use to express exactly the same data.  It depends on whether the cost (money, side effects) is worth the benefit.  Which is the part of this question you sidestepped.

At the end of the day, these statistics are somewhat hard to interpret.  I&#039;d rather die from stroke or heart attack than in a skydiving accident, because the latter would be more likely to afflict me earlier in life.  But if there&#039;s a drug that will reduce my risk of heart attack and stroke, it probably won&#039;t cause a skydiving accident.  Unless it encourages me to continue skydiving later in life.  At any rate, it&#039;s never a great idea to read too much into absolute values, even if they&#039;re small.  No one dies from highly likely events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, in parts of this column you&#8217;re doing exactly the same thing as the people you&#8217;re criticizing.  Recasting the 54% figure as 0.37 vs. 0.17 indeed makes it seem like a ridiculously tiny difference to people who aren&#8217;t used to working with numbers.  You can&#8217;t look at a difference of 0.2 and call it small any more than you can look at a 54% reduction and call it large.  In fact, the difference between 0.37 and 0.17 seems like a very enviable effect size to me, and could easily be recast as percentages that would seem so to anyone.</p>
<p>Appealing to statistics like &#8220;numbers needed to treat&#8221; is potentially very misleading as well.  Both heart attack and stroke often have very severe consequences for quality of life in survivors.  But certainly &#8220;saving&#8221; one life in 100 is a proportion that is either big or small, depending on the costs (money and side effects) of the treatment to the other 199 folks living on your envelope.</p>
<p>Anyway, playing a little fast and loose, let&#8217;s imagine that your risk of heart attack in your lifetime is 30% on placebo, 15% on the drug, and that the same numbers apply to stroke.  Let&#8217;s also fantasize that they&#8217;re independent.  That would mean you have a 51% chance of experiencing either a stroke or a heart attack or both on placebo, a 28% chance on the drug.  Is that a big enough effect to be meaningful to you?  Ultimately the answer doesn&#8217;t depend on what statistic you use to express exactly the same data.  It depends on whether the cost (money, side effects) is worth the benefit.  Which is the part of this question you sidestepped.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, these statistics are somewhat hard to interpret.  I&#8217;d rather die from stroke or heart attack than in a skydiving accident, because the latter would be more likely to afflict me earlier in life.  But if there&#8217;s a drug that will reduce my risk of heart attack and stroke, it probably won&#8217;t cause a skydiving accident.  Unless it encourages me to continue skydiving later in life.  At any rate, it&#8217;s never a great idea to read too much into absolute values, even if they&#8217;re small.  No one dies from highly likely events.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22851</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicycle helmets are not useful to organ transplant surgeons.  They contribute to a shortage of raw materials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycle helmets are not useful to organ transplant surgeons.  They contribute to a shortage of raw materials.</p>
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		<title>By: cellocgw</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22847</link>
		<dc:creator>cellocgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re bicycle helmet:
You don&#039;t get to choose your injury, but you do get to analyze the cost-benefit ratio.
A broken leg or collarbone (both common-ish in bike crashes) are painful but generally noncrippling.
It only takes a minor cranial injury to mess you up, for life, in ugly ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re bicycle helmet:<br />
You don&#8217;t get to choose your injury, but you do get to analyze the cost-benefit ratio.<br />
A broken leg or collarbone (both common-ish in bike crashes) are painful but generally noncrippling.<br />
It only takes a minor cranial injury to mess you up, for life, in ugly ways.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey baby</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22846</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone notice the baseline risk of the placebo group?

More men +0.6%
More smokers +0.3%
More metabolic syndrome +0.8%
Family history of premature CHD +0.6%

AZ were clearly paying attention when you lectured them on tricks big pharma employ. 

This could explain the greater than expected benefit.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone notice the baseline risk of the placebo group?</p>
<p>More men +0.6%<br />
More smokers +0.3%<br />
More metabolic syndrome +0.8%<br />
Family history of premature CHD +0.6%</p>
<p>AZ were clearly paying attention when you lectured them on tricks big pharma employ. </p>
<p>This could explain the greater than expected benefit&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Picklish</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22844</link>
		<dc:creator>Picklish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i agree heavens. Not even everyone who works in a scientific field understands statistics well. Although, it&#039;s not necessary to understand how concepts such as multiple regression and chi squared and other exciting sounding statistical tricks work, but rather how and when to use them, which is completely different (and much easier). But as Dr G. says, we&#039;re all idiots, and we should definately ignore all newspapers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i agree heavens. Not even everyone who works in a scientific field understands statistics well. Although, it&#8217;s not necessary to understand how concepts such as multiple regression and chi squared and other exciting sounding statistical tricks work, but rather how and when to use them, which is completely different (and much easier). But as Dr G. says, we&#8217;re all idiots, and we should definately ignore all newspapers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heavens</title>
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		<dc:creator>heavens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr*T, 

You seem to have forgotten people don&#039;t go into journalism because they&#039;re able to understand statistics.  If they were good with math or science, they&#039;d have chosen a different career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr*T, </p>
<p>You seem to have forgotten people don&#8217;t go into journalism because they&#8217;re able to understand statistics.  If they were good with math or science, they&#8217;d have chosen a different career.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Imelda</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22842</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Imelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>humber wrote:
&quot;Cyclists often imagine that helmets are useful because they think only of head injuries, but in reality, you don’t get to choose the way you would be injured. A case of selective risk assessment.&quot;

But selective by whom?  When making these judgments people rely on those we expect to know the overall risks such as A &amp; E departments or organisations which compile accident statistics. It&#039;s not just &quot;imagination&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>humber wrote:<br />
&#8220;Cyclists often imagine that helmets are useful because they think only of head injuries, but in reality, you don’t get to choose the way you would be injured. A case of selective risk assessment.&#8221;</p>
<p>But selective by whom?  When making these judgments people rely on those we expect to know the overall risks such as A &amp; E departments or organisations which compile accident statistics. It&#8217;s not just &#8220;imagination&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: beast9</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22841</link>
		<dc:creator>beast9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the post title about bike helmets a real statistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the post title about bike helmets a real statistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr* T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr* T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mdimmick - true, but this is column is about statistics 101, any actual journalist (rather than just an admin-type PR rehasher) should be able to put a note in about absolute vs relative risk. It would take all of 5 mins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mdimmick &#8211; true, but this is column is about statistics 101, any actual journalist (rather than just an admin-type PR rehasher) should be able to put a note in about absolute vs relative risk. It would take all of 5 mins.</p>
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		<title>By: njd</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22837</link>
		<dc:creator>njd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% fat-free sounds better than 10% fat.

That Uni. of Chicago study is behind a paywall, but one of the authors has it available at http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/christopher.hsee/vita/Papers/SpecificationSeeking.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% fat-free sounds better than 10% fat.</p>
<p>That Uni. of Chicago study is behind a paywall, but one of the authors has it available at <a href="http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/christopher.hsee/vita/Papers/SpecificationSeeking.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/christopher.hsee/vita/Papers/SpecificationSeeking.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: mdimmick</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22836</link>
		<dc:creator>mdimmick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you&#039;d read &quot;Flat Earth News&quot;, Ben!

A large proportion of the &#039;news&#039; is simply press releases - sometimes paraphrased or rewritten, but largely unresearched - and this is no exception. I&#039;ve no doubt that the press release had these &#039;facts&#039; in it, and of course the aim of the release is to promote their drug so they want to make the effectiveness look as large as possible. This is particularly the case where they&#039;re proposing that people self-medicate with this drug every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you&#8217;d read &#8220;Flat Earth News&#8221;, Ben!</p>
<p>A large proportion of the &#8216;news&#8217; is simply press releases &#8211; sometimes paraphrased or rewritten, but largely unresearched &#8211; and this is no exception. I&#8217;ve no doubt that the press release had these &#8216;facts&#8217; in it, and of course the aim of the release is to promote their drug so they want to make the effectiveness look as large as possible. This is particularly the case where they&#8217;re proposing that people self-medicate with this drug every day.</p>
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		<title>By: julie oakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>julie oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an older mother one of the kinds of statistics that I think is abused by the health service is the risk of having a Downs Syndrome child. Mothers are always informed that they will have a 1 in whatever chance of having a child with Downs Syndrome (in my case I think it was one in ten) which sounds pretty worrying to the average prospective parent. However they are never informed of the converse (ie in my case a 90% chance of not having a Downs Syndrome child)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an older mother one of the kinds of statistics that I think is abused by the health service is the risk of having a Downs Syndrome child. Mothers are always informed that they will have a 1 in whatever chance of having a child with Downs Syndrome (in my case I think it was one in ten) which sounds pretty worrying to the average prospective parent. However they are never informed of the converse (ie in my case a 90% chance of not having a Downs Syndrome child)</p>
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		<title>By: gazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>gazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By a bizarre coincidence my GP has asked me to take part in a trial looking at the effects of a low aspirin dose (1/6 of a tablet - more details to follow) on future incidences of stroke and heart attack. I would put myself in the relatively fit, &#039;middle aged&#039; category. What&#039;s the betting that this trial will end up the same as the rosuvastatin study that Ben refers to?

I surprised my GP at discussing with him how the outcome might be presented in terms of relative and absolute risk statistics!

From reading Ben&#039;s column and book I look forward to discussing the marvels of the placebo effect with him, as well as considering trial protocols. Should be fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By a bizarre coincidence my GP has asked me to take part in a trial looking at the effects of a low aspirin dose (1/6 of a tablet &#8211; more details to follow) on future incidences of stroke and heart attack. I would put myself in the relatively fit, &#8216;middle aged&#8217; category. What&#8217;s the betting that this trial will end up the same as the rosuvastatin study that Ben refers to?</p>
<p>I surprised my GP at discussing with him how the outcome might be presented in terms of relative and absolute risk statistics!</p>
<p>From reading Ben&#8217;s column and book I look forward to discussing the marvels of the placebo effect with him, as well as considering trial protocols. Should be fun!</p>
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		<title>By: mjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm, when i looked for a reference to add re: my above comment i couldn&#039;t find one... so, i might have been misinformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm, when i looked for a reference to add re: my above comment i couldn&#8217;t find one&#8230; so, i might have been misinformed.</p>
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		<title>By: mjs</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22829</link>
		<dc:creator>mjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think diabetes is one of those side effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think diabetes is one of those side effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2008/11/you-are-80-less-likely-to-die-from-a-meteor-landing-on-your-head-if-you-wear-a-bicycle-helmet-all-day/comment-page-1/#comment-22828</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh! You shoulda seen the Colbert Report on Thursday:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/210357/november-12-2008/cheating-death---women-s-health

At about 2:10 is when he talks about rosuvastatin and comes to about the same conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh! You shoulda seen the Colbert Report on Thursday:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/210357/november-12-2008/cheating-death---women-s-health" rel="nofollow">http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/210357/november-12-2008/cheating-death&#8212;women-s-health</a></p>
<p>At about 2:10 is when he talks about rosuvastatin and comes to about the same conclusion.</p>
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