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		<title>By: ew21net</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rien</title>
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		<dc:creator>rien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the virtues of falling from a tree over gaming, why not give it a clinical trial? Let 1000 children play video games and drop 1000 children from a tree and see which group has more brain damage*.

A quick google search learns, that falls account for 35% of brain injuries, while &#039;recreational activities&#039; cause 29%*. Now assuming these categories are mutually exclusive, and ´recreational activities´ do not include falls from trees, but do include computer games -along with other recreational activities such as rugby, ice hockey, headbanging, cage fighting and glue sniffing- my best guess would be that falling from trees is more damaging to the young, developing brain*. 

(To see if they are independent factors, children should be dropped from trees with computers.)

* see Incidence, Severity, and External Causes of Pediatric Brain Injury, Jess F. Kraus, MPH, PhD; Daniel Fife, MD, MPH; Pamela Cox, MPH; Karen Ramstein, MPH; Carol Conroy, MPH 
Am J Dis Child. 1986;140(7):687-693.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the virtues of falling from a tree over gaming, why not give it a clinical trial? Let 1000 children play video games and drop 1000 children from a tree and see which group has more brain damage*.</p>
<p>A quick google search learns, that falls account for 35% of brain injuries, while &#8216;recreational activities&#8217; cause 29%*. Now assuming these categories are mutually exclusive, and ´recreational activities´ do not include falls from trees, but do include computer games -along with other recreational activities such as rugby, ice hockey, headbanging, cage fighting and glue sniffing- my best guess would be that falling from trees is more damaging to the young, developing brain*. </p>
<p>(To see if they are independent factors, children should be dropped from trees with computers.)</p>
<p>* see Incidence, Severity, and External Causes of Pediatric Brain Injury, Jess F. Kraus, MPH, PhD; Daniel Fife, MD, MPH; Pamela Cox, MPH; Karen Ramstein, MPH; Carol Conroy, MPH<br />
Am J Dis Child. 1986;140(7):687-693.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eurogene</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Computer use could be cutting attention spans, stifling imagination and hampering empathy, she said.” “As a result, the parts of the brain involved in these traits will not develop properly.”

How did &quot;could be&quot; become &quot;will not&quot; ??

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Computer use could be cutting attention spans, stifling imagination and hampering empathy, she said.” “As a result, the parts of the brain involved in these traits will not develop properly.”</p>
<p>How did &#8220;could be&#8221; become &#8220;will not&#8221; ??</p>
<p>Badscienciness</p>
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		<title>By: wayscj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Slezak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Slezak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, you&#039;ll be disappointed to hear that the baroness is coming to Australia and setting up Royal Institution here.

Just yesterday a column appeared on the website of Australia&#039;s only national newspaper rehashing her baseless claims. I&#039;ve blogged about it here: http://www.goodbadandbogus.com/2009/09/news-ltd-causes-brain-damage/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, you&#8217;ll be disappointed to hear that the baroness is coming to Australia and setting up Royal Institution here.</p>
<p>Just yesterday a column appeared on the website of Australia&#8217;s only national newspaper rehashing her baseless claims. I&#8217;ve blogged about it here: <a href="http://www.goodbadandbogus.com/2009/09/news-ltd-causes-brain-damage/" rel="nofollow">www.goodbadandbogus.com/2009/09/news-ltd-causes-brain-damage/</a></p>
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		<title>By: fencen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it is valid for a scientist or academic to raise theoretical concerns in their field?  I had interpreted Susan Greenfield&#039;s remarks rather differently and seen them as a call for research (although I&#039;m not sure she explicitly made such a call).  There are a number of issues regarding computer use in the developing child much which is related to the length of time using a computer and perhaps musculo-skeletal damage is a greater potential problem.  But it is useful to balance these views (which are just views) against a message that computer use is making your child more intelligent and they are missing out if they don&#039;t have access to this.  I would have thought that the fact that susan/dr/prof/baroness greenfield&#039;s comments were counter to her invested interests in the development of computer apllications was a positive thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it is valid for a scientist or academic to raise theoretical concerns in their field?  I had interpreted Susan Greenfield&#8217;s remarks rather differently and seen them as a call for research (although I&#8217;m not sure she explicitly made such a call).  There are a number of issues regarding computer use in the developing child much which is related to the length of time using a computer and perhaps musculo-skeletal damage is a greater potential problem.  But it is useful to balance these views (which are just views) against a message that computer use is making your child more intelligent and they are missing out if they don&#8217;t have access to this.  I would have thought that the fact that susan/dr/prof/baroness greenfield&#8217;s comments were counter to her invested interests in the development of computer apllications was a positive thing?</p>
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		<title>By: wetnap</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>her fail continued a few days ago on bbc&#039;s daily mayo radio show.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/mayo/
the link should be live for probably the next few days for that podcast.

it was shocking to hear how simplistic, ignorant, and patronizing her reasoning was.  this woman is a &quot;director&quot; of something?  goes to show the cream doesn&#039;t always rise to the top.  her concern comes from the basis that other people are complete idiots i guess.  the idea that a kid playing violent video games won&#039;t realize that violence in real life will have consequences is laughable. never mind her claim that video games do not punish users for their actions. the WHOLE POINT of video games is that users are rewarded for understanding the game mechanic,and punished for failing, that is the idea behind any GAME.  i just listened and was stunned as this woman spewed out sentence after sentence..each more ridiculous than the last.  it was simply amazing.  the label of &quot;royal&quot; and &quot;baroness&quot; really have zero meaning when standards are this low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>her fail continued a few days ago on bbc&#8217;s daily mayo radio show.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/mayo/" rel="nofollow">www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/mayo/</a><br />
the link should be live for probably the next few days for that podcast.</p>
<p>it was shocking to hear how simplistic, ignorant, and patronizing her reasoning was.  this woman is a &#8220;director&#8221; of something?  goes to show the cream doesn&#8217;t always rise to the top.  her concern comes from the basis that other people are complete idiots i guess.  the idea that a kid playing violent video games won&#8217;t realize that violence in real life will have consequences is laughable. never mind her claim that video games do not punish users for their actions. the WHOLE POINT of video games is that users are rewarded for understanding the game mechanic,and punished for failing, that is the idea behind any GAME.  i just listened and was stunned as this woman spewed out sentence after sentence..each more ridiculous than the last.  it was simply amazing.  the label of &#8220;royal&#8221; and &#8220;baroness&#8221; really have zero meaning when standards are this low.</p>
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		<title>By: irishaxeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>irishaxeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a teacher the bad habits are ingrained in many kids from day one as they are drilled (not educated)into passing national tests. 
Much of what they do in revision or exploration is now computer-based (thanks to Health &amp; Safety) and scientific education is generally woeful. They obtain what they think are instant results just by pressing a button, and increasingly their ability to think becomes an extension of their play and social worlds. 
It is not the machines that do it, it is the leakage of the machines and what they appear to offer into the worlds of education and social intercourse, and how they are used to manage children in this over-controlled society.
Many of my students do not often go out - due to parental safety concerns - and conduct much of their social lives on Facebook. They also expect information to be delivered pre-digested to them because that is done in Key Stage 4 by schools scared into doing anything to increase their results profiles. Everything is NOW, and many intelligent kids who have reasonable GCSEs are totally unable to develop research strategies or interests using books.
So for me it is not the machines as much as the politics and mechanics of education that is harming the prefrontal cortex! A case of active neglect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a teacher the bad habits are ingrained in many kids from day one as they are drilled (not educated)into passing national tests.<br />
Much of what they do in revision or exploration is now computer-based (thanks to Health &amp; Safety) and scientific education is generally woeful. They obtain what they think are instant results just by pressing a button, and increasingly their ability to think becomes an extension of their play and social worlds.<br />
It is not the machines that do it, it is the leakage of the machines and what they appear to offer into the worlds of education and social intercourse, and how they are used to manage children in this over-controlled society.<br />
Many of my students do not often go out &#8211; due to parental safety concerns &#8211; and conduct much of their social lives on Facebook. They also expect information to be delivered pre-digested to them because that is done in Key Stage 4 by schools scared into doing anything to increase their results profiles. Everything is NOW, and many intelligent kids who have reasonable GCSEs are totally unable to develop research strategies or interests using books.<br />
So for me it is not the machines as much as the politics and mechanics of education that is harming the prefrontal cortex! A case of active neglect?</p>
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		<title>By: bluefoot</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26684</link>
		<dc:creator>bluefoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretentious misses the point. It&#039;s not whether the ideas are plausible or not - it&#039;s how opinion is being presented as science.  Susan Greenfield has a respectable publication record on the topic of neuropharmacology.  She has no track record in developmental psychology or psychopathology. She is entitled to her views, but she is behaving badly when she uses her position to give credibility to opinions on which she has no expertise, particularly when some topics, such as whether computers could put children at risk for autism, are highly emotive. It&#039;s stressful enough having a child with autism without being made to feel you may have helped cause it because a top neuroscientist says you have &#039;reprogrammed the brain&#039;. 
On the same basis, the Chris Woodhead stuff is irrelevant - Chris Woodhead does not offer his opinions as any kind of expert in genetics.  It is clear that they are just opinions of a grumpy old man who is fed up with political correctness. It would not be appropriate for Ben to criticise him in Bad Science because he is not even pretending to present science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretentious misses the point. It&#8217;s not whether the ideas are plausible or not &#8211; it&#8217;s how opinion is being presented as science.  Susan Greenfield has a respectable publication record on the topic of neuropharmacology.  She has no track record in developmental psychology or psychopathology. She is entitled to her views, but she is behaving badly when she uses her position to give credibility to opinions on which she has no expertise, particularly when some topics, such as whether computers could put children at risk for autism, are highly emotive. It&#8217;s stressful enough having a child with autism without being made to feel you may have helped cause it because a top neuroscientist says you have &#8216;reprogrammed the brain&#8217;.<br />
On the same basis, the Chris Woodhead stuff is irrelevant &#8211; Chris Woodhead does not offer his opinions as any kind of expert in genetics.  It is clear that they are just opinions of a grumpy old man who is fed up with political correctness. It would not be appropriate for Ben to criticise him in Bad Science because he is not even pretending to present science.</p>
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		<title>By: pretentious</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26641</link>
		<dc:creator>pretentious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a scientist / engineer by nature and in outlook (yes, I&#039;m aware of the target that statement represents in terms of its scientific validity on many levels), I can&#039;t disgree with many of the critcisms of Greenfield herein.

However, I&#039;m struck my the dearth of voices which concede that there may be some truth behind what appears to have been expressed in a counterproductive manner and context.

I am a &quot;non resident&quot; parent of three children.  The eldest is hoping to do maths at Cambridge starting a year and a half from now (and is aware he might not get in).

His younger sister will not do as well, not being as intensely enthused by any particular subject, but is more of an all rounder in terms of driving herself.

They have a younger brother in primary school.  His school performance is at best mediocre.  More that once, he&#039;s been provided with extra tuition in maths (arthimetic, to use the distinction we have in Scotland) and English.  When visiting me I&#039;ve observed him to be perfectly capable of undertaking these lessons.

In day to day interactions, he doesn&#039;t listen, he doesn&#039;t remember, and doesn&#039;t concentrate.  A child&#039;s capacity for absorbing new information is, in my own experience, and my vicarious experience of my children, unparalleled.  His behaviour is in jarring contrast with that.

Anecdotally, then, I consider that, until proved incorrect, the fact that his &quot;resident parent&quot; (or &quot;mother&quot;) permitted him (in contrast with the experince of the elder two) unlimited television viewing at all times of day, and unlimited computer game playing, from an early age, is an adequate explanation for his characteristics.

I appears to me, from the nature of his interest in nothing other than exposure to TV, film of &quot;sci-fi&quot; variety, and computer games, that his deficiencies are mere bad &quot;mental habits&quot; induced or encouraged by that excessive exposure.

So I&#039;d welcome some authoritative and un-ignorable &quot;health warning&quot; which someone who is burying their head in the sand and tinkering at the edges with tutors etc. could not ignore.

This, of course, purely personal self interest - otherwise I&#039;d have the freedom to adopt the scientific purist approach advocated by the bulk of the contributors here, and wait a few decades for research to be conducted, published, accepted, and instantiated on policy (or for the consequences already to have manifested themselves).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a scientist / engineer by nature and in outlook (yes, I&#8217;m aware of the target that statement represents in terms of its scientific validity on many levels), I can&#8217;t disgree with many of the critcisms of Greenfield herein.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m struck my the dearth of voices which concede that there may be some truth behind what appears to have been expressed in a counterproductive manner and context.</p>
<p>I am a &#8220;non resident&#8221; parent of three children.  The eldest is hoping to do maths at Cambridge starting a year and a half from now (and is aware he might not get in).</p>
<p>His younger sister will not do as well, not being as intensely enthused by any particular subject, but is more of an all rounder in terms of driving herself.</p>
<p>They have a younger brother in primary school.  His school performance is at best mediocre.  More that once, he&#8217;s been provided with extra tuition in maths (arthimetic, to use the distinction we have in Scotland) and English.  When visiting me I&#8217;ve observed him to be perfectly capable of undertaking these lessons.</p>
<p>In day to day interactions, he doesn&#8217;t listen, he doesn&#8217;t remember, and doesn&#8217;t concentrate.  A child&#8217;s capacity for absorbing new information is, in my own experience, and my vicarious experience of my children, unparalleled.  His behaviour is in jarring contrast with that.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, then, I consider that, until proved incorrect, the fact that his &#8220;resident parent&#8221; (or &#8220;mother&#8221;) permitted him (in contrast with the experince of the elder two) unlimited television viewing at all times of day, and unlimited computer game playing, from an early age, is an adequate explanation for his characteristics.</p>
<p>I appears to me, from the nature of his interest in nothing other than exposure to TV, film of &#8220;sci-fi&#8221; variety, and computer games, that his deficiencies are mere bad &#8220;mental habits&#8221; induced or encouraged by that excessive exposure.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d welcome some authoritative and un-ignorable &#8220;health warning&#8221; which someone who is burying their head in the sand and tinkering at the edges with tutors etc. could not ignore.</p>
<p>This, of course, purely personal self interest &#8211; otherwise I&#8217;d have the freedom to adopt the scientific purist approach advocated by the bulk of the contributors here, and wait a few decades for research to be conducted, published, accepted, and instantiated on policy (or for the consequences already to have manifested themselves).</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26630</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 08:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There&#039;s nothing wrong with enjoying games. But don&#039;t you think it&#039;s strange that people are engaging in activities that have no purpose? Spending their precious time and money sitting in front of a screen in a make-believe world when they could be out there having love affairs and doing things in the real world? 

This quote made me chuckle...no I&#039;m not worried about these people, I&#039;d be more worried if they were doing whatever it is they like doing out in the real domain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing wrong with enjoying games. But don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s strange that people are engaging in activities that have no purpose? Spending their precious time and money sitting in front of a screen in a make-believe world when they could be out there having love affairs and doing things in the real world? </p>
<p>This quote made me chuckle&#8230;no I&#8217;m not worried about these people, I&#8217;d be more worried if they were doing whatever it is they like doing out in the real domain?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26622</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsteele.co.uk/science/antisocialnetworking/&quot; title=&quot;andrewsteele.co.uk: Anti-social networking&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interviewed her&lt;/a&gt; for one of the Oxford student papers and I&#039;m pretty sure that, if she bothers to get back to you, it will simply be to reiterate that her claims are just a hypothesis. As she helpfully explained to me, &#039;you have to start with a hypothesis&#039;.

She is very keen to abrogate responsibility for her appearance in the popular press, which might be a bit more plausible if she didn&#039;t appear in it so frequently and say such gloriously evidence-free things as she does in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/5104941/We-dont-need-a-Twittericulum.html&quot; title=&quot;Daily Telegraph: ‘We don’t need a Twittericulum’&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this delightful interview with the &lt;i&gt;Telegraph&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The quote about the Twin Towers is especially terrifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://andrewsteele.co.uk/science/antisocialnetworking/" title="andrewsteele.co.uk: Anti-social networking" rel="nofollow">interviewed her</a> for one of the Oxford student papers and I&#8217;m pretty sure that, if she bothers to get back to you, it will simply be to reiterate that her claims are just a hypothesis. As she helpfully explained to me, &#8216;you have to start with a hypothesis&#8217;.</p>
<p>She is very keen to abrogate responsibility for her appearance in the popular press, which might be a bit more plausible if she didn&#8217;t appear in it so frequently and say such gloriously evidence-free things as she does in <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/5104941/We-dont-need-a-Twittericulum.html" title="Daily Telegraph: ‘We don’t need a Twittericulum’" rel="nofollow">this delightful interview with the <i>Telegraph</i></a>. The quote about the Twin Towers is especially terrifying.</p>
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		<title>By: sleepy</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26617</link>
		<dc:creator>sleepy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I used to work at Heriot-Watt University where Greenfield was and is the Chancellor. She was coming out with this kind of stuff around this time last year, promoting her new book, and as a researcher working with computer game technology at the same university I tried to question and refute some of her claims in our project blog: http://judyrobertson.typepad.com/adventure_author/2008/05/is-technology-r.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I used to work at Heriot-Watt University where Greenfield was and is the Chancellor. She was coming out with this kind of stuff around this time last year, promoting her new book, and as a researcher working with computer game technology at the same university I tried to question and refute some of her claims in our project blog: <a href="http://judyrobertson.typepad.com/adventure_author/2008/05/is-technology-r.html" rel="nofollow">judyrobertson.typepad.com/adventure_author/2008/05/is-technology-r.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: NearlyDidDentistry</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26600</link>
		<dc:creator>NearlyDidDentistry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Inorganic Gardener said:

&quot;Earn yourself a Ph.D and/or M.D. and then I might start listening to you again. &quot;

Er...... Not being funny, but......  Hasn&#039;t Ben had his medical degree for years now?

Are you referring to the fact that an M.D. (as conferred in (e.g.) North America) is a graduate program, and therefore superior to a medical degree from the UK, which is an undergraduate program?
(actually, MD and MBChB are considered equal due to the fact that 3 or 4 good UK A-levels are on academic parity with a US science Bachelors)

I don&#039;t see why peer observation should only be valid if it is directed towards a lower member of the academic qualifications hierarchy.

&quot;My Dad&#039;s bigger than your Dad&quot; is alive and well, it would appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Inorganic Gardener said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Earn yourself a Ph.D and/or M.D. and then I might start listening to you again. &#8221;</p>
<p>Er&#8230;&#8230; Not being funny, but&#8230;&#8230;  Hasn&#8217;t Ben had his medical degree for years now?</p>
<p>Are you referring to the fact that an M.D. (as conferred in (e.g.) North America) is a graduate program, and therefore superior to a medical degree from the UK, which is an undergraduate program?<br />
(actually, MD and MBChB are considered equal due to the fact that 3 or 4 good UK A-levels are on academic parity with a US science Bachelors)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why peer observation should only be valid if it is directed towards a lower member of the academic qualifications hierarchy.</p>
<p>&#8220;My Dad&#8217;s bigger than your Dad&#8221; is alive and well, it would appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Om</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26585</link>
		<dc:creator>Om</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- The Inorganic Gradener said: “here she has charged herself with promoting the public’s understanding of science”

No Ben, that’s her job. She has not charged herself with anything. Whilst you may disagree with her (as I myself do) she’s not “charged herself” with doing anything.

...what? you think she took the job having no clue what it entailed and had those responsibilities dropped in her lap to her shock and delight? or is it perhaps more likely that she saw the job description, thought &#039;i can do that&#039; and applied?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- The Inorganic Gradener said: “here she has charged herself with promoting the public’s understanding of science”</p>
<p>No Ben, that’s her job. She has not charged herself with anything. Whilst you may disagree with her (as I myself do) she’s not “charged herself” with doing anything.</p>
<p>&#8230;what? you think she took the job having no clue what it entailed and had those responsibilities dropped in her lap to her shock and delight? or is it perhaps more likely that she saw the job description, thought &#8216;i can do that&#8217; and applied?</p>
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		<title>By: smithers</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26563</link>
		<dc:creator>smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 07:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a children&#039;s author on TV this morning (because writing for the little darlings obviously makes you highly qualified to speak about all aspects of their development) saying that &#039;something&#039;s going wrong with our children&#039; &#039;we&#039;re seeing more and more emotional problems&#039; etc with technology etc being the obvious villain.  Apparently there&#039;s a new programme on CBBC that will teach kids emotional intelligence and make them happy...as opposed to all those shows that were designed to make them unhappy.  FFS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a children&#8217;s author on TV this morning (because writing for the little darlings obviously makes you highly qualified to speak about all aspects of their development) saying that &#8216;something&#8217;s going wrong with our children&#8217; &#8216;we&#8217;re seeing more and more emotional problems&#8217; etc with technology etc being the obvious villain.  Apparently there&#8217;s a new programme on CBBC that will teach kids emotional intelligence and make them happy&#8230;as opposed to all those shows that were designed to make them unhappy.  FFS.</p>
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		<title>By: Cairnos</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/05/professor-baroness-susan-greenfield-cbe/comment-page-2/#comment-26554</link>
		<dc:creator>Cairnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Computer use could be cutting attention spans, &quot;

Three words

World of Warcraft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Computer use could be cutting attention spans, &#8221;</p>
<p>Three words</p>
<p>World of Warcraft</p>
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