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]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27530 Tessa K Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:53:49 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27530 My inner pedant bridled slightly but then my inner rebel punched it. We are Legion. I shall be wearing the T shirt in the Bristol area and various points West this weekend. My inner pedant bridled slightly but then my inner rebel punched it. We are Legion.

I shall be wearing the T shirt in the Bristol area and various points West this weekend.

]]> By: mockingbird http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27517 mockingbird Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:10:50 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27517 The pedant in me was tempted to change the lower case 'i' to upper case, or at least to remove the full stop, but I thought I'd be defiant and leave it as it is. I know how to live! The pedant in me was tempted to change the lower case ‘i’ to upper case, or at least to remove the full stop, but I thought I’d be defiant and leave it as it is. I know how to live!

]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27511 Tessa K Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:38 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27511 I got olive although it's more of a mushroomy colour. Smells a bit chemical but I wore it out tonight anyway. I'm a bit too impatient for online shopping; when I see something, I want to buy and wear it straight away. That's not vanity, it's insanity. Labels are easily cut out. I do generally cut them out whatever the size as they are often itchy. I like the fact that the slogan starts with a lower-case i as it really upsets some people. I got olive although it’s more of a mushroomy colour. Smells a bit chemical but I wore it out tonight anyway. I’m a bit too impatient for online shopping; when I see something, I want to buy and wear it straight away.

That’s not vanity, it’s insanity. Labels are easily cut out. I do generally cut them out whatever the size as they are often itchy.

I like the fact that the slogan starts with a lower-case i as it really upsets some people.

]]> By: mockingbird http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27510 mockingbird Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:47:21 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27510 That reminds me of the days when I worked in a clothes shop where all the sizes were really small, and we lost a fair few sales from vain women refusing to buy things because they were a large rather than a medium etc. What colour did you go for? That reminds me of the days when I worked in a clothes shop where all the sizes were really small, and we lost a fair few sales from vain women refusing to buy things because they were a large rather than a medium etc.

What colour did you go for?

]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27507 Tessa K Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:06:04 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27507 It just came and it's the right size - long enough too, which is surprising. I had to get an XL so I think I'll cut the label out. I am so not an XL unless it stands for Extra Lanky. It just came and it’s the right size – long enough too, which is surprising. I had to get an XL so I think I’ll cut the label out. I am so not an XL unless it stands for Extra Lanky.

]]> By: mockingbird http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27506 mockingbird Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:39:05 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27506 I can't remember exactly what day it arrived but I think it took about a week from ordering to receiving it, all in all. Too large is almost always better than too small, I wouldn't worry! I can’t remember exactly what day it arrived but I think it took about a week from ordering to receiving it, all in all.

Too large is almost always better than too small, I wouldn’t worry!

]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27495 Tessa K Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:20:25 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27495 Mockingbird - how long did it take to come? I ordered one about 4 days ago. I think I might have erred on the side of too large. Ah well, there's always tumble-drying. Mockingbird – how long did it take to come? I ordered one about 4 days ago. I think I might have erred on the side of too large. Ah well, there’s always tumble-drying.

]]> By: mockingbird http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27476 mockingbird Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:19:10 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27476 I wouldn't worry. It's worth it for 'Indoctrination? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.' Anyway my tshirt has arrived in the post and it fits just fine :) ever ever so slightly short at worst but hardly worth worrying about, and I expected that anyway on account of being relatively tall. I wouldn’t worry. It’s worth it for ‘Indoctrination? I think you’ll find it’s a bit more complicated than that.’

Anyway my tshirt has arrived in the post and it fits just fine :) ever ever so slightly short at worst but hardly worth worrying about, and I expected that anyway on account of being relatively tall.

]]> By: samanthastein http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27464 samanthastein Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:34:18 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27464 Just to save face, I didn't know it was a Daily Mail photographer when they took the picture... Just to save face, I didn’t know it was a Daily Mail photographer when they took the picture…

]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27417 Tessa K Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:43:41 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27417 I finally got a reply from the T shirt company about sizing. For some reason, they measure across the chest, not all the way round so you need to double these. The measurements are on the website but you have to click a specific T shirt to find them - not obvious. Men's classic: S 20.5" M 20.9" L 22" XL 22.8" (there are larger men's ones but I stopped at that point) Women's: S 16.1" M 17.7" L 18.5" XL 19.3" So there is quite a difference between the two. Different fits have different sizing again. Hope that's useful. I finally got a reply from the T shirt company about sizing. For some reason, they measure across the chest, not all the way round so you need to double these. The measurements are on the website but you have to click a specific T shirt to find them – not obvious.

Men’s classic: S 20.5″ M 20.9″ L 22″ XL 22.8″
(there are larger men’s ones but I stopped at that point)
Women’s: S 16.1″ M 17.7″ L 18.5″ XL 19.3″

So there is quite a difference between the two. Different fits have different sizing again.

Hope that’s useful.

]]> By: mockingbird http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27409 mockingbird Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:09:41 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27409 Tessa K - I have bought a small with some trepidation, I generally find tshirts like that tend to be on the bigger side of each size but it's hard to be sure. On the other hand I could've quite easily made one myself, I have some transfer paper in a drawer next to me right now and I could've bought a tshirt for less than a fiver. But I bought one anyway, in the name of science and reason, so if it doesn't fit I won't be too chuffed! Looking forward to hearing about the camp anyway. Tessa K – I have bought a small with some trepidation, I generally find tshirts like that tend to be on the bigger side of each size but it’s hard to be sure.

On the other hand I could’ve quite easily made one myself, I have some transfer paper in a drawer next to me right now and I could’ve bought a tshirt for less than a fiver. But I bought one anyway, in the name of science and reason, so if it doesn’t fit I won’t be too chuffed!

Looking forward to hearing about the camp anyway.

]]> By: evilartsgraduate http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27387 evilartsgraduate Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:29:58 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27387 I suppose it's too much to ask for the "I" pronoun to be capitalised? @Goblock: If God is so great, why doesn’t He (sic!)help his followers see criticism as a positive spur to self-improvement? How are you so sure that doesn't happen? Virtually all the scores of believers I know do see it just that way (unless it's of the knee-jerk 'so, you have a religious belief, how stupid/oppressive/narrow-minded is that?' variety, of course)...not that I am claiming those examples as data, you understand, merely an answer to your probably rhetorical question ;-) The T-shirt phrase is likely to be voted 'thing I am most likely to say' in my household, and it certainly isn't necessary to be an atheist/rationalist to say it... I suppose it’s too much to ask for the “I” pronoun to be capitalised?

@Goblock: If God is so great, why doesn’t He (sic!)help his followers see criticism as a positive spur to self-improvement?

How are you so sure that doesn’t happen? Virtually all the scores of believers I know do see it just that way (unless it’s of the knee-jerk ’so, you have a religious belief, how stupid/oppressive/narrow-minded is that?’ variety, of course)…not that I am claiming those examples as data, you understand, merely an answer to your probably rhetorical question ;-)

The T-shirt phrase is likely to be voted ‘thing I am most likely to say’ in my household, and it certainly isn’t necessary to be an atheist/rationalist to say it…

]]> By: Tessa K http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27376 Tessa K Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:46:15 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27376 Sam and Richard are going to write up the Camp when they've recovered so we can get a more accurate idea of what went on. I'd like to know what sizes S M L and XL represent in the real world as I could be any of them given how much T shirt sizing varies (although probably not S if it's a lady T). Sam and Richard are going to write up the Camp when they’ve recovered so we can get a more accurate idea of what went on.

I’d like to know what sizes S M L and XL represent in the real world as I could be any of them given how much T shirt sizing varies (although probably not S if it’s a lady T).

]]> By: bald_rob http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27374 bald_rob Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:38:07 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27374 "For example, the children will also study astronomy, 'pseudo-science' such as tarot cards, and question why horoscopes are so popular." Children should be taught to be skeptical of pseudo-science such as astronomy. Believing in invisible black-holes at the centre of the universe is just as silly as believing in unicorns. ---- Read that, bought the t-shirt! “For example, the children will also study astronomy, ‘pseudo-science’ such as tarot cards, and question why horoscopes are so popular.”

Children should be taught to be skeptical of pseudo-science such as astronomy. Believing in invisible black-holes at the centre of the universe is just as silly as believing in unicorns.

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Read that, bought the t-shirt!

]]> By: Jo http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27360 Jo Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:22:08 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27360 @JQH The 'SCIENCE it works, bitches' t-shirt is available here, from xkcd http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#Science I also rather like this one 'Stand back, I'm going to try science' http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#StandBackScience @JQH

The ‘SCIENCE it works, bitches’ t-shirt is available here, from xkcd http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#Science

I also rather like this one ‘Stand back, I’m going to try science’ http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#StandBackScience

]]> By: pv http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27359 pv Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:33:32 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27359 Maybe Paul Dacre thinks the Daily Heil <i>is</i> the Bible. Maybe Paul Dacre thinks the Daily Heil is the Bible.

]]> By: Goblok http://www.badscience.net/2009/07/one-of-my-t-shirts-is-in-the-in-the-daily-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-27358 Goblok Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:46:54 +0000 http://www.badscience.net/?p=1275#comment-27358 @JoanCrawford: Couldn't agree more - he/she/it is driving me mad as well! @JoanCrawford: Couldn’t agree more – he/she/it is driving me mad as well!

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