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	<title>Comments on: Ben Goldacre and Science Minister Lord Drayson debate: 16th Sept, Royal Institution, tickets are free on 020 7409 2992</title>
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		<title>By: wayscj</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayscj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JohnBailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnBailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume the real academic big hitters either have it in their contracts or have sufficient power that the press office wouldn&#039;t dare release without approval. Otherwise i expect to see &quot;Dawkins: God might exist&quot; as a headline in the near future. Can you sue your employer for libel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume the real academic big hitters either have it in their contracts or have sufficient power that the press office wouldn&#8217;t dare release without approval. Otherwise i expect to see &#8220;Dawkins: God might exist&#8221; as a headline in the near future. Can you sue your employer for libel?</p>
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		<title>By: heavens</title>
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		<dc:creator>heavens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afh, 

Here&#039;s one idea, if you&#039;re in academic science:  Insist that, as a matter of integrity and professorial prerogative, that the university require pre-approval of any press release they send out that includes any academician&#039;s name in it.   Get it written into a formal policy or bargaining contract.  

&quot;I won&#039;t sign off on this misrepresentation of my work, and the faculty will pitch a screaming fit if you send it out without my approval&quot; is a fairly powerful lever for moving the publicity office. 

Alternatively, if your colleagues don&#039;t mind having their reputations diminished through errors made by their own institution, you can take individual action by encouraging the publicity folks to believe that if you disagree with the press release, you&#039;ll personally post a (very) public correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afh, </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one idea, if you&#8217;re in academic science:  Insist that, as a matter of integrity and professorial prerogative, that the university require pre-approval of any press release they send out that includes any academician&#8217;s name in it.   Get it written into a formal policy or bargaining contract.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I won&#8217;t sign off on this misrepresentation of my work, and the faculty will pitch a screaming fit if you send it out without my approval&#8221; is a fairly powerful lever for moving the publicity office. </p>
<p>Alternatively, if your colleagues don&#8217;t mind having their reputations diminished through errors made by their own institution, you can take individual action by encouraging the publicity folks to believe that if you disagree with the press release, you&#8217;ll personally post a (very) public correction.</p>
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		<title>By: afh</title>
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		<dc:creator>afh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds interesting. And it would be good to know what we as scientists can do to promote good science reporting.  If the rae rewards press coverage, that puts a lot of pressure on me as a scientist to get my work written up In the popular press. But I know that if I spin my work in a silly and exaggerated way, it is more likely to get coverage.  So current policies might make science journalism worse by encouraging scientists to over spin results rather than to counter the spin. Do you think there is anything we can do about this? I&#039;d love to be able to &#039;say no to spin&#039; but I fear that could hurt my career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds interesting. And it would be good to know what we as scientists can do to promote good science reporting.  If the rae rewards press coverage, that puts a lot of pressure on me as a scientist to get my work written up In the popular press. But I know that if I spin my work in a silly and exaggerated way, it is more likely to get coverage.  So current policies might make science journalism worse by encouraging scientists to over spin results rather than to counter the spin. Do you think there is anything we can do about this? I&#8217;d love to be able to &#8217;say no to spin&#8217; but I fear that could hurt my career.</p>
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		<title>By: Clemmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clemmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m stating the obvious, but this could easily descend into a game of &quot;look at these examples of rubbish reporting&quot; versus &quot;yeah but look at these examples of good reporting&quot;.

How do you intend to make the general argument, with supporting data (while still giving some juicy examples)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m stating the obvious, but this could easily descend into a game of &#8220;look at these examples of rubbish reporting&#8221; versus &#8220;yeah but look at these examples of good reporting&#8221;.</p>
<p>How do you intend to make the general argument, with supporting data (while still giving some juicy examples)?</p>
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		<title>By: rptb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>rptb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently made a proposal for a MySociety project to try to improve science reporting with distributed fact checking. Please see http://www.mysociety.org/2009/08/26/scientists-say/ if you are interested, and do comment with feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently made a proposal for a MySociety project to try to improve science reporting with distributed fact checking. Please see <a href="http://www.mysociety.org/2009/08/26/scientists-say/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mysociety.org/2009/08/26/scientists-say/</a> if you are interested, and do comment with feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: JoanCrawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoanCrawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good, though I&#039;m not clear what the output of the discussion will be, or what is expected to change as a result. I guess as long as the grown-ups start thinking about the issue seriously, that must be a good thing.

PS Can your techie mate not do something to stop the Health Pain spamming on this blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good, though I&#8217;m not clear what the output of the discussion will be, or what is expected to change as a result. I guess as long as the grown-ups start thinking about the issue seriously, that must be a good thing.</p>
<p>PS Can your techie mate not do something to stop the Health Pain spamming on this blog?</p>
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		<title>By: adamcreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>adamcreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from the RI website: 
&quot;For people unable to attend in person, this free event will be streamed live on the THE website (more details will follow)&quot; 
so vague but promising</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the RI website:<br />
&#8220;For people unable to attend in person, this free event will be streamed live on the THE website (more details will follow)&#8221;<br />
so vague but promising</p>
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		<title>By: Health Pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very important that scientists elaborated on their credibility and in some way to generate confidence about medical issues, because we know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findrxonline.com/rss/articles/chronic-pain.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;science&lt;/a&gt;, evolves and the people who are not aware of it ever learns to understand the differences, which in these times are very important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very important that scientists elaborated on their credibility and in some way to generate confidence about medical issues, because we know that <a href="http://www.findrxonline.com/rss/articles/chronic-pain.html" rel="nofollow">science</a>, evolves and the people who are not aware of it ever learns to understand the differences, which in these times are very important.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be streamed to Second Life, we managed it at the RI last Saturday during &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mentalindigestion.net/?p=1073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Science Online&lt;/a&gt; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be streamed to Second Life, we managed it at the RI last Saturday during <a href="http://www.mentalindigestion.net/?p=1073" rel="nofollow">Science Online</a> <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Moganero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moganero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t see that a debate on Twitter would be very useful.  Many questions/points worth raising are going to be too long for it.  I that a way of censoring questions that might require real answers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t see that a debate on Twitter would be very useful.  Many questions/points worth raising are going to be too long for it.  I that a way of censoring questions that might require real answers?</p>
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		<title>By: Hedonist Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedonist Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will video/audio of the event be available online later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will video/audio of the event be available online later?</p>
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		<title>By: macker</title>
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		<dc:creator>macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be a bit hard to book just now:

http://www.rigb.org/contentControl?action=displayContent&amp;id=00000003507</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be a bit hard to book just now:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rigb.org/contentControl?action=displayContent&amp;id=00000003507" rel="nofollow">http://www.rigb.org/contentControl?action=displayContent&amp;id=00000003507</a></p>
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