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		<title>By: wayscj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sue61</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a mother of 2 girls of different ages, both having the jab 3 days after the edition under discussion, my heart sank when I saw it. More of my daughters friends than I could count dropped out of their first vaccine during the next two days. 
Co-incidentally, I am in charge of health studies at a secondary school. There was such a sudden wave of frightened and misinformed panic that I sent round a letter to all pupils, going through some of the FAQ&#039;s and trying to encourage parents to find out for themselves whether or not the rumours (being spread faster than butter on hot toast)were something that they should be concerned about. It was a relief to see that many of those who had dropped out of the first wave of jabs rejoined the programme for the second wave

It frustrates me that such fear can be spread by those who do not have to take responsibility. I took a show of hands yesterday of pupils in my class to find out who had had the MMR jab when they were younger (we were studying public health campaigns and how they affected the health and well-being of the population). less than half put up their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a mother of 2 girls of different ages, both having the jab 3 days after the edition under discussion, my heart sank when I saw it. More of my daughters friends than I could count dropped out of their first vaccine during the next two days.<br />
Co-incidentally, I am in charge of health studies at a secondary school. There was such a sudden wave of frightened and misinformed panic that I sent round a letter to all pupils, going through some of the FAQ&#8217;s and trying to encourage parents to find out for themselves whether or not the rumours (being spread faster than butter on hot toast)were something that they should be concerned about. It was a relief to see that many of those who had dropped out of the first wave of jabs rejoined the programme for the second wave</p>
<p>It frustrates me that such fear can be spread by those who do not have to take responsibility. I took a show of hands yesterday of pupils in my class to find out who had had the MMR jab when they were younger (we were studying public health campaigns and how they affected the health and well-being of the population). less than half put up their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: anitaisabelgomes</title>
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		<dc:creator>anitaisabelgomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi :)

I am a medicine student in Portugal and I follow your work on this website since I have read your book.
First, let me congratulate you for the acuracy and objectivity of your comments. Thanks!
Secondly, what I have to say is not that good. Unfortunatelly in Portugal the situation with the media is similar from the one in the UK. Information not scientific, subjective... things are writen with a missinterpretation of the facts because of a under-covered goal or jornalists do it on purpose on an unbelived and un-ethical attempt of a &quot;hit&quot;.

Now that I had suscribed this blog, if you think it may be interessting every time the issue is equivalent I will talk about what is written in Portugal about it.

For example on this case of the vaccine, our National Health System (SNS) gives it for free to teenagers. They have decided it after an intense pressure from the media (I am not saying if I agree or not with the decision, what bothers me was the fact that they were against and when the media stared saying the government should resign because they didn´t care about peoples lifes, suddenly they have given the vaccine!) and after that the media started questioning the im+portance of the vaccine giving contradictory information about the advantages or desadvantages of it.

Yours sincerelly,
Ana Isabel Gomes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am a medicine student in Portugal and I follow your work on this website since I have read your book.<br />
First, let me congratulate you for the acuracy and objectivity of your comments. Thanks!<br />
Secondly, what I have to say is not that good. Unfortunatelly in Portugal the situation with the media is similar from the one in the UK. Information not scientific, subjective&#8230; things are writen with a missinterpretation of the facts because of a under-covered goal or jornalists do it on purpose on an unbelived and un-ethical attempt of a &#8220;hit&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now that I had suscribed this blog, if you think it may be interessting every time the issue is equivalent I will talk about what is written in Portugal about it.</p>
<p>For example on this case of the vaccine, our National Health System (SNS) gives it for free to teenagers. They have decided it after an intense pressure from the media (I am not saying if I agree or not with the decision, what bothers me was the fact that they were against and when the media stared saying the government should resign because they didn´t care about peoples lifes, suddenly they have given the vaccine!) and after that the media started questioning the im+portance of the vaccine giving contradictory information about the advantages or desadvantages of it.</p>
<p>Yours sincerelly,<br />
Ana Isabel Gomes</p>
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		<title>By: molyneux1000</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28323</link>
		<dc:creator>molyneux1000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mikewhit: the feeding kids speed comment was tongue in cheek as evidenced by the inverted commas.

@Veronica: I&#039;m sorry, but the evidence on these kids have dysfunctional brains is far from conclusive. Even if their brains do deviate from the mean, I do not agree that this automatically equals a diseased state, unlike say vascular dementia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikewhit: the feeding kids speed comment was tongue in cheek as evidenced by the inverted commas.</p>
<p>@Veronica: I&#8217;m sorry, but the evidence on these kids have dysfunctional brains is far from conclusive. Even if their brains do deviate from the mean, I do not agree that this automatically equals a diseased state, unlike say vascular dementia.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28322</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@molyneux1000

Children with ADHD already have an &quot;abnormal brain state&quot; which is what the drugs (and methylphenidate is not speed) aim to correct.

Thank you mikewhit for some balance in this set of comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@molyneux1000</p>
<p>Children with ADHD already have an &#8220;abnormal brain state&#8221; which is what the drugs (and methylphenidate is not speed) aim to correct.</p>
<p>Thank you mikewhit for some balance in this set of comments.</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28286</link>
		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you have to see it to believe it; it&#039;s not a matter of &quot;giving stimulants to any individual&quot; - at these doses there&#039;s not much effect on &#039;normal&#039; individuals, whereas the improvement effect on our child was noted by all, and he wasn&#039;t classic &quot;hyperactive&quot;, just able to concentrate, remember and not be distracted.

Regulated dosage is not exactly &#039;feeding&#039; either - it&#039;s down to achieving a functional level in the bloodstream during &quot;working hours&quot;.

Oh well, agree to differ on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you have to see it to believe it; it&#8217;s not a matter of &#8220;giving stimulants to any individual&#8221; &#8211; at these doses there&#8217;s not much effect on &#8216;normal&#8217; individuals, whereas the improvement effect on our child was noted by all, and he wasn&#8217;t classic &#8220;hyperactive&#8221;, just able to concentrate, remember and not be distracted.</p>
<p>Regulated dosage is not exactly &#8216;feeding&#8217; either &#8211; it&#8217;s down to achieving a functional level in the bloodstream during &#8220;working hours&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh well, agree to differ on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: molyneux1000</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28285</link>
		<dc:creator>molyneux1000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the whole &#039;feeding kids speed&#039; thing is that  giving stimulants to any individual would have the effect of improving academic performance, at least transiently. I believe there is now a black market in the U.S. made up of students who take these medications to help study. With this in mind, I don&#039;t believe these drugs work by repairing neurological pathology, rather that they induce an abnormal brain state which may (to some extent) control what is deemed dysfunctional behaviour in children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the whole &#8216;feeding kids speed&#8217; thing is that  giving stimulants to any individual would have the effect of improving academic performance, at least transiently. I believe there is now a black market in the U.S. made up of students who take these medications to help study. With this in mind, I don&#8217;t believe these drugs work by repairing neurological pathology, rather that they induce an abnormal brain state which may (to some extent) control what is deemed dysfunctional behaviour in children.</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28284</link>
		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fizzy drinks aren&#039;t in it - in our experience of ADHD there is a disconnect between e.g. working memory performance, distractability and other ed. psych scores.

A disability that appears to be corrected in some measure with methylphenidate - except among some who say, &quot;it&#039;s the diet/parenting/fish oil/E-numbers&quot; ... do you think we didn&#039;t try that first ?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fizzy drinks aren&#8217;t in it &#8211; in our experience of ADHD there is a disconnect between e.g. working memory performance, distractability and other ed. psych scores.</p>
<p>A disability that appears to be corrected in some measure with methylphenidate &#8211; except among some who say, &#8220;it&#8217;s the diet/parenting/fish oil/E-numbers&#8221; &#8230; do you think we didn&#8217;t try that first ?!</p>
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		<title>By: elvisionary</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28283</link>
		<dc:creator>elvisionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on a minute, you don&#039;t need to be in the anti-medication lobby or a scientologist to believe that there may be a problem - particularly in the US - with the over-prescription of certain drugs to children to deal with behavioural issues.  It&#039;s perfectly legitimate to ask whether weaning kids off junk food, sweets and fizzy drinks might be a more effective prescription for certain attention-deficit or hyperactivity &quot;conditions&quot; than ritalin.  With the added benefit that they don&#039;t label children with any kind of lasting condition.  

There are certain sweets that I won&#039;t let my children near.  This is not based on scientific evidence, but on experience of how they behave after they&#039;ve eaten them - it&#039;s extraordinary how quickly they develop behavioural issues.

In the words of Willy Mason, &quot;I wanna speak louder than ritalin for all the children who think that they&#039;ve got a disease&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on a minute, you don&#8217;t need to be in the anti-medication lobby or a scientologist to believe that there may be a problem &#8211; particularly in the US &#8211; with the over-prescription of certain drugs to children to deal with behavioural issues.  It&#8217;s perfectly legitimate to ask whether weaning kids off junk food, sweets and fizzy drinks might be a more effective prescription for certain attention-deficit or hyperactivity &#8220;conditions&#8221; than ritalin.  With the added benefit that they don&#8217;t label children with any kind of lasting condition.  </p>
<p>There are certain sweets that I won&#8217;t let my children near.  This is not based on scientific evidence, but on experience of how they behave after they&#8217;ve eaten them &#8211; it&#8217;s extraordinary how quickly they develop behavioural issues.</p>
<p>In the words of Willy Mason, &#8220;I wanna speak louder than ritalin for all the children who think that they&#8217;ve got a disease&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28282</link>
		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there is an anti-medication lobby as well as an anti-vaccination lobby; that Express item mentioning the CCHR seems to be written from that point of view, as well as attracting comment posts from the same standpoint.

Maybe they&#039;re scientologists as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is an anti-medication lobby as well as an anti-vaccination lobby; that Express item mentioning the CCHR seems to be written from that point of view, as well as attracting comment posts from the same standpoint.</p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re scientologists as well.</p>
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		<title>By: molyneux1000</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28226</link>
		<dc:creator>molyneux1000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I am aware of this organization. It is a branch of the Scientology organisation/cult. I dislike it, as someone who works within the mental health field, because it&#039;s views (and approaches to disseminating those views) debase the concerns of those who are critical of psychiatry and aspects of the pharmaceutical industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am aware of this organization. It is a branch of the Scientology organisation/cult. I dislike it, as someone who works within the mental health field, because it&#8217;s views (and approaches to disseminating those views) debase the concerns of those who are critical of psychiatry and aspects of the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
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		<title>By: blindlemon</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28224</link>
		<dc:creator>blindlemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a link to a website for the Citizen&#039;s Commission on Human Rights. This organisation has &#039;views&#039; on science. A journalist called Lucy Johnston, though not necessarily the one from the Express, endorses them: 

http://www.fightforkids.org/recognitions.html

The journalist from the Express needlessly mentions them at the end of an article a few years ago: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/10244

I am sure a few minutes reading about the CCHR will be well spent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to a website for the Citizen&#8217;s Commission on Human Rights. This organisation has &#8216;views&#8217; on science. A journalist called Lucy Johnston, though not necessarily the one from the Express, endorses them: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fightforkids.org/recognitions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fightforkids.org/recognitions.html</a></p>
<p>The journalist from the Express needlessly mentions them at the end of an article a few years ago: <a href="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/10244" rel="nofollow">http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/10244</a></p>
<p>I am sure a few minutes reading about the CCHR will be well spent&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elvisionary</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvisionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think the Express could be persuaded to run a story entitled &quot;Reading this newspaper could give you cancer&quot;?  Given their propensity for scaring their readers off vaccines, it could turn out to be true.

As they are evidently susceptible to bad science, we could back this up with some statistics showing that their readers are more likely to die of cancer than readers of most other newspapers.  Given the age profile of their readership, this is probably true - although the Mail and the Telegraph might be even more &quot;dangerous&quot;.  

Give them a taste of their own bad medicine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think the Express could be persuaded to run a story entitled &#8220;Reading this newspaper could give you cancer&#8221;?  Given their propensity for scaring their readers off vaccines, it could turn out to be true.</p>
<p>As they are evidently susceptible to bad science, we could back this up with some statistics showing that their readers are more likely to die of cancer than readers of most other newspapers.  Given the age profile of their readership, this is probably true &#8211; although the Mail and the Telegraph might be even more &#8220;dangerous&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Give them a taste of their own bad medicine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We now accept that there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case&quot; - hang on, that was your 2-inch font headline !

_Who_ is going to get sacked ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We now accept that there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case&#8221; &#8211; hang on, that was your 2-inch font headline !</p>
<p>_Who_ is going to get sacked ???</p>
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		<title>By: jbuzza</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28216</link>
		<dc:creator>jbuzza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A correction was published in the Sunday Express on 11-Oct. 

&quot;Last Sunday we incorrectly suggested that the cervical cancer vaccine Cervarix could be as deadly as cervical cancer and that the vaccine is ineffective.

We now accept that there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case and that Cervarix in fact provides protection against the viruses that cause 70% of cervical cancers.

We are happy to set the record straight and apologise for causing undue alarm to all those women and teenage girls considering vaccination against cervical cancer.&quot;

Suspect they were in danger of being sued for defamation. Can&#039;t find the story on their website though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A correction was published in the Sunday Express on 11-Oct. </p>
<p>&#8220;Last Sunday we incorrectly suggested that the cervical cancer vaccine Cervarix could be as deadly as cervical cancer and that the vaccine is ineffective.</p>
<p>We now accept that there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case and that Cervarix in fact provides protection against the viruses that cause 70% of cervical cancers.</p>
<p>We are happy to set the record straight and apologise for causing undue alarm to all those women and teenage girls considering vaccination against cervical cancer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Suspect they were in danger of being sued for defamation. Can&#8217;t find the story on their website though.</p>
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		<title>By: pv</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28214</link>
		<dc:creator>pv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Lurkinggherkin said,&lt;/b&gt;
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October 10, 2009 at 8:07 am

Sadly, they have probably factored an epic busting into their cost/benefit analysis…the reason that certain sections of the press continue to get away with this crap is that the risk is worth the reward.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They will also know that the PCC is a self-serving Industry committee, set up by the Industry of which they are obviously a part, for the Industry. It is the perfect example of all that is wrong with self-regulation. Self-regulation without a legal underpinning is a pernicious idea - which is why homeoquacks and charlatans in general are so in favour of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Lurkinggherkin said,</b></p>
<blockquote><p>
October 10, 2009 at 8:07 am</p>
<p>Sadly, they have probably factored an epic busting into their cost/benefit analysis…the reason that certain sections of the press continue to get away with this crap is that the risk is worth the reward.
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<p>They will also know that the PCC is a self-serving Industry committee, set up by the Industry of which they are obviously a part, for the Industry. It is the perfect example of all that is wrong with self-regulation. Self-regulation without a legal underpinning is a pernicious idea &#8211; which is why homeoquacks and charlatans in general are so in favour of it.</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28213</link>
		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternative &quot;reductio ad absurdam&quot; approach would be to take the Express item as being correct, and then to complain to the various powers-that-be and companies involved on the basis of the quoted article, always quoting your source as the journalist&#039;s verbatim text in the Express article.

There might then follow a flurry of annoyed rebuttals from the parties which could be redirected at the Express and the journalist.

Might cause sufficient embarrassment to them that the journo gets a smack on the wrist ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternative &#8220;reductio ad absurdam&#8221; approach would be to take the Express item as being correct, and then to complain to the various powers-that-be and companies involved on the basis of the quoted article, always quoting your source as the journalist&#8217;s verbatim text in the Express article.</p>
<p>There might then follow a flurry of annoyed rebuttals from the parties which could be redirected at the Express and the journalist.</p>
<p>Might cause sufficient embarrassment to them that the journo gets a smack on the wrist &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikewhit</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28212</link>
		<dc:creator>mikewhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... the antivaccination community, which is vanishingly small ...&quot; - (IMHO) bad use of &quot;vanishingly small&quot;, from a mathematical point of view: it&#039;s finite and does not tend to zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; the antivaccination community, which is vanishingly small &#8230;&#8221; &#8211; (IMHO) bad use of &#8220;vanishingly small&#8221;, from a mathematical point of view: it&#8217;s finite and does not tend to zero.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey2gorgeous</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28211</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey2gorgeous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could we &#039;flash mob&#039; a paper through the courts? What if large numbers of us all bought the paper then wrote to them asking for our money back? If they refuse we could all issue small claims against them (with corresponding &#039;costs&#039; too!).

Perhaps too fanciful. Have you talked to Mark Thomas about this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could we &#8216;flash mob&#8217; a paper through the courts? What if large numbers of us all bought the paper then wrote to them asking for our money back? If they refuse we could all issue small claims against them (with corresponding &#8216;costs&#8217; too!).</p>
<p>Perhaps too fanciful. Have you talked to Mark Thomas about this??</p>
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		<title>By: CoralBloom</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-28210</link>
		<dc:creator>CoralBloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  The title of the article is &#039;Swine flu fears grow as NHS staff shun vaccine&#039;  Published on 11/10/09 and that should be in my post rather than two links to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  The title of the article is &#8216;Swine flu fears grow as NHS staff shun vaccine&#8217;  Published on 11/10/09 and that should be in my post rather than two links to it.</p>
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