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		<title>By: diohuni</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-3/#comment-36977</link>
		<dc:creator>diohuni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. please sign the petition against the fake detectors and get a couple of friends as well. If they do same we can get a big number. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal#signatures

A potted history of the fraud here:
http://www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4

HISTORY

http://www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp

FED ACCOUNTING

http://www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid

PICTURE GALLERY

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51719307

ROGUES GALLERY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. please sign the petition against the fake detectors and get a couple of friends as well. If they do same we can get a big number. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal#signatures" rel="nofollow">www.change.org/petitions/demand-action-and-justice-in-fake-explosive-detectors-scandal#signatures</a></p>
<p>A potted history of the fraud here:<br />
<a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4" rel="nofollow">www.scribd.com/full/51676711?access_key=key-11r7th4aq0zgvhd6q2b4</a></p>
<p>HISTORY</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp" rel="nofollow">www.scribd.com/full/51703923?access_key=key-231darif3gwjtk07acrp</a></p>
<p>FED ACCOUNTING</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid" rel="nofollow">www.scribd.com/full/51676708?access_key=key-119dzmlzr6r8yaww7fid</a></p>
<p>PICTURE GALLERY</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51719307" rel="nofollow">www.scribd.com/doc/51719307</a></p>
<p>ROGUES GALLERY</p>
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		<title>By: diohuni</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-3/#comment-36528</link>
		<dc:creator>diohuni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorus. Nothing to explain. No credible working principles. 

Anyway, great news!!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217
This is great news. For those of us who have been at the campaign to get this trade shut down, it is especially great news for Techowiz, who has been tenacious in keeping this stroy burning while we waited for the mainstream media to pick it up.

Now we just want all the rest of the crooks rounded up. More good news to come soon.

The foolowing still are at large:
James McCormick and the ADE 651, Gary Bolton and the GT200. David Vollmar and the HEDD1, General Pierre Hadji Georgiou at ProSec in Lebanon, Ilie Stelian at Mira Telecom, John Wyatt at SDS, Malcolm Roe, Sam Tree, Yuri Markov, Horizon Group India, Simon Sherrard at Comstrac, and quite a few others. They should not be sleeping too well now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorus. Nothing to explain. No credible working principles. </p>
<p>Anyway, great news!!</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217" rel="nofollow">uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/uk-iraq-britain-explosives-idUKTRE71G3H120110217</a><br />
This is great news. For those of us who have been at the campaign to get this trade shut down, it is especially great news for Techowiz, who has been tenacious in keeping this stroy burning while we waited for the mainstream media to pick it up.</p>
<p>Now we just want all the rest of the crooks rounded up. More good news to come soon.</p>
<p>The foolowing still are at large:<br />
James McCormick and the ADE 651, Gary Bolton and the GT200. David Vollmar and the HEDD1, General Pierre Hadji Georgiou at ProSec in Lebanon, Ilie Stelian at Mira Telecom, John Wyatt at SDS, Malcolm Roe, Sam Tree, Yuri Markov, Horizon Group India, Simon Sherrard at Comstrac, and quite a few others. They should not be sleeping too well now.</p>
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		<title>By: dorus</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-36524</link>
		<dc:creator>dorus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belive or not they had a site dedicated to ADE 651!
http://www.ade651.co.uk/
I have readed almost all their sciencific explination and understand nothing. Is there someoane who can explain what is that? Is this possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belive or not they had a site dedicated to ADE 651!<br />
<a href="http://www.ade651.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">www.ade651.co.uk/</a><br />
I have readed almost all their sciencific explination and understand nothing. Is there someoane who can explain what is that? Is this possible?</p>
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		<title>By: diohuni</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-36386</link>
		<dc:creator>diohuni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see the Newsnight investigation last week. Look slike we should now see some proper action after Techowiz and I started the campaign here in the UK 2.5 years ago following the Randi revelations.

For those who haven&#039;t seen it the link for Newsnight is now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxArxIgB9oA&amp;feature=player_embedded

We reckon that proper action will now follow, particularly to identify who was responsible at MOD for supporting this rubbish.

And by the way, to anyone who thinks that they have a deterrent effect, please say that to the realtives of people blown up after these stupid swivel dowsers fail to work!

So, to Jim McCormick, ade 651, Gary Bolton, GT200 and David Vollmar Hedd1 (ex Sniffex Plus) as well as a number of other secondary players like the seriously dumb Wyatt at SDS geoup, looks like the end of the line. We promised you it would come to this. Shame you didn&#039;t listen guys.

Dubious Dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see the Newsnight investigation last week. Look slike we should now see some proper action after Techowiz and I started the campaign here in the UK 2.5 years ago following the Randi revelations.</p>
<p>For those who haven&#8217;t seen it the link for Newsnight is now</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxArxIgB9oA&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxArxIgB9oA&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>We reckon that proper action will now follow, particularly to identify who was responsible at MOD for supporting this rubbish.</p>
<p>And by the way, to anyone who thinks that they have a deterrent effect, please say that to the realtives of people blown up after these stupid swivel dowsers fail to work!</p>
<p>So, to Jim McCormick, ade 651, Gary Bolton, GT200 and David Vollmar Hedd1 (ex Sniffex Plus) as well as a number of other secondary players like the seriously dumb Wyatt at SDS geoup, looks like the end of the line. We promised you it would come to this. Shame you didn&#8217;t listen guys.</p>
<p>Dubious Dick</p>
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		<title>By: suzwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-36343</link>
		<dc:creator>suzwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is being covered in tonight&#039;s Newsnight - looks like you beat them to it, Ben!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y14s3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is being covered in tonight&#8217;s Newsnight &#8211; looks like you beat them to it, Ben!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y14s3" rel="nofollow">www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y14s3</a></p>
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		<title>By: bobcouttie</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-36169</link>
		<dc:creator>bobcouttie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 09:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sniffing around a bit I discovered that some of these devices are being marketed to the maritime industry and ports. They are probably very attractive to third world countries trying to achieve the 100 per cent scanning of all containers being imposed by the US.

http://maritimeaccident.org/?p=13862

We&#039;re now trying to determine the level of these devices in the maritime and offshore industry as well as sending alerts to bring attention to the hazard they present to seafarers, ships and cargo, and to port state control authorities.

Bob Couttie
Maritime Accident Casebook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sniffing around a bit I discovered that some of these devices are being marketed to the maritime industry and ports. They are probably very attractive to third world countries trying to achieve the 100 per cent scanning of all containers being imposed by the US.</p>
<p><a href="http://maritimeaccident.org/?p=13862" rel="nofollow">maritimeaccident.org/?p=13862</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;re now trying to determine the level of these devices in the maritime and offshore industry as well as sending alerts to bring attention to the hazard they present to seafarers, ships and cargo, and to port state control authorities.</p>
<p>Bob Couttie<br />
Maritime Accident Casebook</p>
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		<title>By: techowiz</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-35653</link>
		<dc:creator>techowiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ernst,

So now I find you polluting this site with your nonsense. The ade website is full off unsupported statements by the man currently on bail for fraud regarding the ade. I notice you also failed to point out that you are from the Romanian company that sells this scam. Perhaps you can, at last, name the government agencies your website alleges tested the ade and stated it works? Or perhaps you can explain to everyone how the ade allegedly changed it&#039;s working principle from EMA to NQR then back to EMA?
Or perhaps you can point to 1 single scrap of evidence to support your claim the ade works as claimed?
Wherever you go on the web I will counter your nonsense with the words you fear, EVIDENCE, TRUTH &amp; FACTS. 
Bye Ernst</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ernst,</p>
<p>So now I find you polluting this site with your nonsense. The ade website is full off unsupported statements by the man currently on bail for fraud regarding the ade. I notice you also failed to point out that you are from the Romanian company that sells this scam. Perhaps you can, at last, name the government agencies your website alleges tested the ade and stated it works? Or perhaps you can explain to everyone how the ade allegedly changed it&#8217;s working principle from EMA to NQR then back to EMA?<br />
Or perhaps you can point to 1 single scrap of evidence to support your claim the ade works as claimed?<br />
Wherever you go on the web I will counter your nonsense with the words you fear, EVIDENCE, TRUTH &amp; FACTS.<br />
Bye Ernst</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst Filibert</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-35261</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernst Filibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at their site there is all explained
http://www.ade651.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at their site there is all explained<br />
<a href="http://www.ade651.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">www.ade651.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: drunkenoaf</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33319</link>
		<dc:creator>drunkenoaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@the_real_dr_bob -- also, getting the sample through the quardrupole mass spec would be fun. Would the explosive substance be introduced by electrospray ionization by the ADE651 device, or is it a plasma instrument? LC/GC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@the_real_dr_bob &#8212; also, getting the sample through the quardrupole mass spec would be fun. Would the explosive substance be introduced by electrospray ionization by the ADE651 device, or is it a plasma instrument? LC/GC?</p>
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		<title>By: Slov01</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33318</link>
		<dc:creator>Slov01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14N nucleus is indeed quadrupolar having a nuclear spin of 1 and there is likely to be more nitrogen in a bomb than say, a bottle of Evian.  Using a f-off BIG expensive superconducting magnet, an NMR spectrum of a solid sample would probably be broad (ie containing a lot more than &quot;three&quot; frequencies) and sh*t after hours of data acquisition.  Ernst: having read a book is no excuse for defending this magical dowsing which is beyond a joke.

(Sorry the_real_dr_bob.  NMR not really the same as the quadrupole detector on a mass spec.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14N nucleus is indeed quadrupolar having a nuclear spin of 1 and there is likely to be more nitrogen in a bomb than say, a bottle of Evian.  Using a f-off BIG expensive superconducting magnet, an NMR spectrum of a solid sample would probably be broad (ie containing a lot more than &#8220;three&#8221; frequencies) and sh*t after hours of data acquisition.  Ernst: having read a book is no excuse for defending this magical dowsing which is beyond a joke.</p>
<p>(Sorry the_real_dr_bob.  NMR not really the same as the quadrupole detector on a mass spec.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sili</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33317</link>
		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuclear quadropole moments are a real thing, but they&#039;re not that readily accessible.

Just think about what it takes to do &lt;a href=&quot;//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dipole&lt;/em&gt; spectroscopy on the nucleus&lt;/a&gt;.

If QMR was so easy it&#039;d be all over the place. Chemists would love nothing more than probing to 12-C instead of the most rarer 13C.

So the words are real - the use is still gobbledegook, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear quadropole moments are a real thing, but they&#8217;re not that readily accessible.</p>
<p>Just think about what it takes to do <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance" rel="nofollow"><em>dipole</em> spectroscopy on the nucleus</a>.</p>
<p>If QMR was so easy it&#8217;d be all over the place. Chemists would love nothing more than probing to 12-C instead of the most rarer 13C.</p>
<p>So the words are real &#8211; the use is still gobbledegook, though.</p>
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		<title>By: the_real_dr_bob</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33316</link>
		<dc:creator>the_real_dr_bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally but Ernst, you know that anything containing nitrogen contains N-14, it&#039;s 99.6% abundant in nature.  So yes a quadrupole mass spectrometer, which is what you describe to begin with, could identify N-14 but I am unaware of any portable quadrupole mass spectrometers on the market as they are fairly delicate bits of kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally but Ernst, you know that anything containing nitrogen contains N-14, it&#8217;s 99.6% abundant in nature.  So yes a quadrupole mass spectrometer, which is what you describe to begin with, could identify N-14 but I am unaware of any portable quadrupole mass spectrometers on the market as they are fairly delicate bits of kit.</p>
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		<title>By: zeno</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33314</link>
		<dc:creator>zeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernst Filibert

Is there a website that automatically generates that gobbledegook nonsense or did you make it up yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernst Filibert</p>
<p>Is there a website that automatically generates that gobbledegook nonsense or did you make it up yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: hellnombre</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33312</link>
		<dc:creator>hellnombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaha</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst Filibert</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33311</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernst Filibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The technologies used by ADE are Nuclear Quadrupole Resonance which has been used to detect landmines and explosives concealed in luggage all over the world with great success. NQR is a radiofrequency (RF) technique in which the observed frequencies depend on the interaction between the electric quadrupole moment of the nucleus and the electric field gradient generated at the nuclear site by external charges. All common high explosives contain 14 N, a quadrupolar nucleus generating three sets of resonance frequencies, providing an unequivocal method of detecting and identifying an explosive, as well as estimating its quantity and depth. Because of its high specificity there is little or no interference from other nitrogen-containing material that may be present - such as the mine casing or fertilizer in the soil.
The device is working and McCormick is not guilty. If they could prove it is not working he was in jail by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The technologies used by ADE are Nuclear Quadrupole Resonance which has been used to detect landmines and explosives concealed in luggage all over the world with great success. NQR is a radiofrequency (RF) technique in which the observed frequencies depend on the interaction between the electric quadrupole moment of the nucleus and the electric field gradient generated at the nuclear site by external charges. All common high explosives contain 14 N, a quadrupolar nucleus generating three sets of resonance frequencies, providing an unequivocal method of detecting and identifying an explosive, as well as estimating its quantity and depth. Because of its high specificity there is little or no interference from other nitrogen-containing material that may be present &#8211; such as the mine casing or fertilizer in the soil.<br />
The device is working and McCormick is not guilty. If they could prove it is not working he was in jail by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst Filibert</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33216</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernst Filibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they don’t have proves against him and device so they try to put both in a bad position with mass media “help” which I don’t think is disinterested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they don’t have proves against him and device so they try to put both in a bad position with mass media “help” which I don’t think is disinterested.</p>
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		<title>By: cristeadriana10</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-33213</link>
		<dc:creator>cristeadriana10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no final sentence pronounced against McCormick by a judge, so until that the man is under the presumption of innocence like any other citizen. From my point of view they have nothing, there is no incontestable proves against the man so all this is just a scam trying to denigrate the device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no final sentence pronounced against McCormick by a judge, so until that the man is under the presumption of innocence like any other citizen. From my point of view they have nothing, there is no incontestable proves against the man so all this is just a scam trying to denigrate the device.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffreysnj</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/comment-page-2/#comment-31538</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffreysnj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvellous Obfuscation!

The response to my complaint about Newsnight&#039;s exclusive claim an lack of acknowledgement of published sources!

Dear Mr Jeffreys

Thank you for your recent e-mail.  Please accept our apologies for the delay in replying.  We know our correspondents appreciate a quick response and we are sorry you have had to wait on this occasion.

We forwarded your complaint to &#039;Newsnight&#039; Editors and Meirion Jones who explained in response that:

&quot;We first published our exclusive report at 14.00 on Friday January 22nd with an article by Meirion Jones and Caroline Hawley and a video clip of the Cambridge Computer Lab computer lab test. 

In that article we went out of our way to explain the history of this and that concerns had gone back to 1995 and indeed that James Randi had been the first to express them. Although such concerns had been raised for many years the Iraqi authorities were not acting on those concerns because they said there was no proof that the detectors did not work. What was exclusive was that we proved beyond doubt that the devices being used in Baghdad could not work which forced the British government to immediately bring in an export ban.

This is the relevant part of the article where we talk about the history: 

14.00 22 JANUARY BBC ONLINE

&quot;Concern over the use of dowsing rods to detect bombs was first raised by American sceptic, James Randi. Mr Randi has confirmed to the BBC that he is still offering Mr McCormick $1m if he can prove that the ADE-651 works. In 1995, the Sandia national labs and the FBI raised the alarm over a dowsing rod device called the Quadro Tracker which they described as &quot;a fraud&quot; and the FBI warned: &quot;All agencies should immediately cease using the device.
&quot;In 1999, the FBI put out another alert: &quot;Warning. Do not use bogus explosives detection devices.&quot; In 2002, a test by Sandia labs in the US found that a similar dowsing rod device, called the Mole detector, did not work and performed &quot;no better than a random selection process&quot;. They concluded that it did not work and that it looked &quot;nearly identical&quot; to the Quadro Tracker. Last month, a senior Iraqi officer involved in bomb-prevention defended the ADE-651. Major General Jehad al-Jabiri, who appeared at a press conference with Mr McCormick following the December explosions, said he did not &quot;care about Sandia&quot; and knew more about bombs than the Americans: &quot;Whether it&#039;s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,&quot; he said.”

The history section in the film broadcast on Newsnight was more brief but again made the point that concerns had been repeatedly expressed since 1995, an excerpt from the programme below:

22.30 22 JANUARY BBC NEWSNIGHT

&quot;Since the mid-1990s, a succession of dowsing-type detectors -- like the
ADE-651 -- have come onto the market. In 1995, the FBI tested a device called the Quadro Tracker.  It warned: The Quadro Tracker is a fraud. All agencies should immediately cease using the device.&quot;  Another warning about &quot;modern dowsers&quot; followed in 1999. &quot;WARNING: DO NOT BUY BOGUS EXPLOSIVES DETECTION EQUIPMENT&quot;. In 2002, a test by Sandia national labs in the US found that a similar device, the Mole Detector, didn&#039;t work and performed:
&quot;... no better than a random selection process.&quot;

I had been vaguely aware of bogus dowsing devices being sold as drug and bomb detectors over the years. I&#039;ve interviewed James Randi in the past and I&#039;ve produced pieces which investigate bogus claims. For instance my investigation of homeopathic cures for malaria has led to disciplinary hearings at the Royal Pharmaceutical Society for the pharmacists who prescribed them. However it was not until Rod Nordland&#039;s piece in the New York Times on November 3rd 2009 that I realised that dowsing devices were being used on checkpoints as the primary protection against car bombs in Baghdad. Like most people I assumed that something would be quickly done - it was only after the December 8 carbombs that Caroline Hawley and myself realized that nothing had changed and that unless we could prove beyond doubt that the ADE651 and GT200 were incapable of detecting bombs they would continue being exported from Britain and used in Iraq. 

We tested the &#039;programmed substance detection cards&#039; for the ADE651 and scientifically proved in a laboratory that the claims made for them could not be true and that it could not detect explosives or anything else. We obtained a GT200/Mole and opened it up showing that there were no working parts in it that could possibly detect anything.

We then told the Government about our evidence and they rushed in a ban on exports to Iraq and Afghanistan because of the risk that the so-called bomb detectors posed to British and allied troops. And on Tuesday 16th Feb the Thai PM banned the purchase of any more GT200s following tests as a result of our report.&quot;

I hope this has gone some way toward addressing your concerns. 
Nevertheless, I fully appreciate that you feel strongly about this matter. 
Therefore I would like to assure you that we have registered your comments on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us with your views.
 
Regards
 
Paul Hunter
BBC Complaints
__________________________________________
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

-----Original Message-----

{Complaint:} An &quot;exclusive&quot; report on the use of wand detection of explosives was labelled exclusive and completely failed to acknowledge the 

media reports on the same subject  report in the Guardian on the 7th November which in itself was a report following revalations in the New York Times and James Randi !!

Poor tabloid Journalism for such a serious subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvellous Obfuscation!</p>
<p>The response to my complaint about Newsnight&#8217;s exclusive claim an lack of acknowledgement of published sources!</p>
<p>Dear Mr Jeffreys</p>
<p>Thank you for your recent e-mail.  Please accept our apologies for the delay in replying.  We know our correspondents appreciate a quick response and we are sorry you have had to wait on this occasion.</p>
<p>We forwarded your complaint to &#8216;Newsnight&#8217; Editors and Meirion Jones who explained in response that:</p>
<p>&#8220;We first published our exclusive report at 14.00 on Friday January 22nd with an article by Meirion Jones and Caroline Hawley and a video clip of the Cambridge Computer Lab computer lab test. </p>
<p>In that article we went out of our way to explain the history of this and that concerns had gone back to 1995 and indeed that James Randi had been the first to express them. Although such concerns had been raised for many years the Iraqi authorities were not acting on those concerns because they said there was no proof that the detectors did not work. What was exclusive was that we proved beyond doubt that the devices being used in Baghdad could not work which forced the British government to immediately bring in an export ban.</p>
<p>This is the relevant part of the article where we talk about the history: </p>
<p>14.00 22 JANUARY BBC ONLINE</p>
<p>&#8220;Concern over the use of dowsing rods to detect bombs was first raised by American sceptic, James Randi. Mr Randi has confirmed to the BBC that he is still offering Mr McCormick $1m if he can prove that the ADE-651 works. In 1995, the Sandia national labs and the FBI raised the alarm over a dowsing rod device called the Quadro Tracker which they described as &#8220;a fraud&#8221; and the FBI warned: &#8220;All agencies should immediately cease using the device.<br />
&#8220;In 1999, the FBI put out another alert: &#8220;Warning. Do not use bogus explosives detection devices.&#8221; In 2002, a test by Sandia labs in the US found that a similar dowsing rod device, called the Mole detector, did not work and performed &#8220;no better than a random selection process&#8221;. They concluded that it did not work and that it looked &#8220;nearly identical&#8221; to the Quadro Tracker. Last month, a senior Iraqi officer involved in bomb-prevention defended the ADE-651. Major General Jehad al-Jabiri, who appeared at a press conference with Mr McCormick following the December explosions, said he did not &#8220;care about Sandia&#8221; and knew more about bombs than the Americans: &#8220;Whether it&#8217;s magic or scientific, what I care about is it detects bombs,&#8221; he said.”</p>
<p>The history section in the film broadcast on Newsnight was more brief but again made the point that concerns had been repeatedly expressed since 1995, an excerpt from the programme below:</p>
<p>22.30 22 JANUARY BBC NEWSNIGHT</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the mid-1990s, a succession of dowsing-type detectors &#8212; like the<br />
ADE-651 &#8212; have come onto the market. In 1995, the FBI tested a device called the Quadro Tracker.  It warned: The Quadro Tracker is a fraud. All agencies should immediately cease using the device.&#8221;  Another warning about &#8220;modern dowsers&#8221; followed in 1999. &#8220;WARNING: DO NOT BUY BOGUS EXPLOSIVES DETECTION EQUIPMENT&#8221;. In 2002, a test by Sandia national labs in the US found that a similar device, the Mole Detector, didn&#8217;t work and performed:<br />
&#8220;&#8230; no better than a random selection process.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had been vaguely aware of bogus dowsing devices being sold as drug and bomb detectors over the years. I&#8217;ve interviewed James Randi in the past and I&#8217;ve produced pieces which investigate bogus claims. For instance my investigation of homeopathic cures for malaria has led to disciplinary hearings at the Royal Pharmaceutical Society for the pharmacists who prescribed them. However it was not until Rod Nordland&#8217;s piece in the New York Times on November 3rd 2009 that I realised that dowsing devices were being used on checkpoints as the primary protection against car bombs in Baghdad. Like most people I assumed that something would be quickly done &#8211; it was only after the December 8 carbombs that Caroline Hawley and myself realized that nothing had changed and that unless we could prove beyond doubt that the ADE651 and GT200 were incapable of detecting bombs they would continue being exported from Britain and used in Iraq. </p>
<p>We tested the &#8216;programmed substance detection cards&#8217; for the ADE651 and scientifically proved in a laboratory that the claims made for them could not be true and that it could not detect explosives or anything else. We obtained a GT200/Mole and opened it up showing that there were no working parts in it that could possibly detect anything.</p>
<p>We then told the Government about our evidence and they rushed in a ban on exports to Iraq and Afghanistan because of the risk that the so-called bomb detectors posed to British and allied troops. And on Tuesday 16th Feb the Thai PM banned the purchase of any more GT200s following tests as a result of our report.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope this has gone some way toward addressing your concerns.<br />
Nevertheless, I fully appreciate that you feel strongly about this matter.<br />
Therefore I would like to assure you that we have registered your comments on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.</p>
<p>Thanks again for taking the time to contact us with your views.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Paul Hunter<br />
BBC Complaints<br />
__________________________________________<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints" rel="nofollow">www.bbc.co.uk/complaints</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>{Complaint:} An &#8220;exclusive&#8221; report on the use of wand detection of explosives was labelled exclusive and completely failed to acknowledge the </p>
<p>media reports on the same subject  report in the Guardian on the 7th November which in itself was a report following revalations in the New York Times and James Randi !!</p>
<p>Poor tabloid Journalism for such a serious subject.</p>
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		<description>As seen on Newsnight just now...</description>
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		<title>By: idczvlw02</title>
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		<description>Iraq Official Warned Against Anti - Bomb Device Buy 

 
 By REUTERS
Published: January 24, 2010 
Filed at 1:28 p.m. ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq&#039;s interior ministry was told two years ago not to buy an explosives detector that Britain says does not work, and the purchase of the sensors was tainted by suspected fraud, a senior official said on Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/01/24/world/international-uk-iraq-britain-explosives.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq Official Warned Against Anti &#8211; Bomb Device Buy </p>
<p> By REUTERS<br />
Published: January 24, 2010<br />
Filed at 1:28 p.m. ET</p>
<p>BAGHDAD (Reuters) &#8211; Iraq&#8217;s interior ministry was told two years ago not to buy an explosives detector that Britain says does not work, and the purchase of the sensors was tainted by suspected fraud, a senior official said on Sunday.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/01/24/world/international-uk-iraq-britain-explosives.html" rel="nofollow">www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/01/24/world/international-uk-iraq-britain-explosives.html</a></p>
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