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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by jgrellier</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgrellier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphic on the front page of the &quot;report&quot; looks like something from the Chris Morris stable. That would appear to be the only thing going for it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Dr Ben Goldacre by Fast Science: The Uncertainty Paradox &#124; The Health Care Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fast Science: The Uncertainty Paradox &#124; The Health Care Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 16:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] results (this last phenomenon is referred to as &#8220;publication bias,&#8221; and is something Ben Goldacre rails against at length). A further manifestation of this fast science is that &#8220;no [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Dr Ben Goldacre by #214) It&#8217;s Time for a Boredom Czar, as I&#8217;m headed Down Under &#124; The Benshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>#214) It&#8217;s Time for a Boredom Czar, as I&#8217;m headed Down Under &#124; The Benshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ABUSE PREFERABLE TO ARGUING ABOUT CLIMATE. In this Australian video British science journalist Ben Goldacre says in reference to the topic of global warming (at 48 minutes), &#8220;I would literally rather [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sitting pretty by Where is the best Men's Skincare product shop located in Hong Kong? - Hong Kong GeoExpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where is the best Men's Skincare product shop located in Hong Kong? - Hong Kong GeoExpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Is there statistical evidence of fraud in the Russian election data? by OperationBarbapapa</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2012/03/is-there-statistical-evidence-of-fraud-in-the-russian-election-data/comment-page-1/#comment-40025</link>
		<dc:creator>OperationBarbapapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 12:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we statistically analyse the geopolitical leanings of the researchers concerned, and see if there is some kind of correlation to the countries chosen to analyse? Or possibly the susceptibility of the researchers to mass-media opinion-forming, advertising, etc. if we are being slightly more kind. 
Let&#039;s face it, elections are normally are said to be &quot;disputed&quot; when other countries don&#039;t get the outcome they wanted, even after vigorously funding the usually hopelessly unpopular opposition (hint-that&#039;s why they&#039;ŗe the opposition). Then you call their elected leader a &quot;strongman&quot; until the next election comes around, What does that even mean, visions of handlebar moustaches, stripey victorian gym outfits and moulded black iron dumbells? I notice this didn&#039;t ever happen to Sarkozy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we statistically analyse the geopolitical leanings of the researchers concerned, and see if there is some kind of correlation to the countries chosen to analyse? Or possibly the susceptibility of the researchers to mass-media opinion-forming, advertising, etc. if we are being slightly more kind.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it, elections are normally are said to be &#8220;disputed&#8221; when other countries don&#8217;t get the outcome they wanted, even after vigorously funding the usually hopelessly unpopular opposition (hint-that&#8217;s why they&#8217;ŗe the opposition). Then you call their elected leader a &#8220;strongman&#8221; until the next election comes around, What does that even mean, visions of handlebar moustaches, stripey victorian gym outfits and moulded black iron dumbells? I notice this didn&#8217;t ever happen to Sarkozy <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How Aric Sigman distorts the scientific evidence to mislead you. by kendersrule</title>
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		<dc:creator>kendersrule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 11:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twitter friends are generally people I&#039;ve YET to meet. Not: have not met/will never meet. Big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twitter friends are generally people I&#8217;ve YET to meet. Not: have not met/will never meet. Big difference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Aric Sigman distorts the scientific evidence to mislead you. by kendersrule</title>
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		<dc:creator>kendersrule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 11:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigman&#039;s article has vanished from the land of PDF!</description>
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		<title>Comment on All time classic creationist pwnage by Canuck57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canuck57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 06:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny...great letters.  Wasn&#039;t it Mark Twain that stated never to argue with a moron...he will just drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience :-).  Never argue religion with a zealot, or a creationist...it&#039;s simply not worth the effort.  They will never grasp what it is you&#039;re trying to say because they are not permitted to think critically.  They are only permitted to regurgitate what they have been told, and will never be able to think for themselves.

It is certainly fun listening to them quoting scripture when trying to argue a scientific point though :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny&#8230;great letters.  Wasn&#8217;t it Mark Twain that stated never to argue with a moron&#8230;he will just drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Never argue religion with a zealot, or a creationist&#8230;it&#8217;s simply not worth the effort.  They will never grasp what it is you&#8217;re trying to say because they are not permitted to think critically.  They are only permitted to regurgitate what they have been told, and will never be able to think for themselves.</p>
<p>It is certainly fun listening to them quoting scripture when trying to argue a scientific point though <img src='http://www.badscience.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a link between breast cancer and antiperspirant? by Make Your Own Deodorant! It‘s Simple! &#171; Black Old Chewing Gum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Your Own Deodorant! It‘s Simple! &#171; Black Old Chewing Gum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] safe and non-irritating. But do we know for sure? You want to know more about it? Further Reading: link between breast cancer and antiperspirant  are parabens natural?  parabens &#8211; an introduction cancercontroversies: deodorants and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by hesfes</title>
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		<dc:creator>hesfes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Opera Solutions say themselves in the blurb on their website, under the section JOIN US:

&quot;Opera Solutions is a diverse and dynamic place to work. Our scientists, software engineers, sales force, consultants, and technology professionals are comfortable with ambiguity, ... &quot; 

Say one thing for them, they&#039;ve taken that word to a massive  new height of irony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Opera Solutions say themselves in the blurb on their website, under the section JOIN US:</p>
<p>&#8220;Opera Solutions is a diverse and dynamic place to work. Our scientists, software engineers, sales force, consultants, and technology professionals are comfortable with ambiguity, &#8230; &#8221; </p>
<p>Say one thing for them, they&#8217;ve taken that word to a massive  new height of irony!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by julianscox</title>
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		<dc:creator>julianscox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember this post from last year, which makes it an opportunity to bash the drum of populist left beliefs. As usual the British press and readership enjoy their own assumptions about others. Everything I have read today feels like a manipulation of the facts to the ends of the few, be they right of left in ideal. It would be pleasant to read articles where political policy was based on facts. I rarely enjoy such an article. It is always the class system polarising the conversation for the readers viewpoint. The class system is maintained by those who wish to end it as much as those who have the fortune/fate to have been born with a silver spoon in their mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember this post from last year, which makes it an opportunity to bash the drum of populist left beliefs. As usual the British press and readership enjoy their own assumptions about others. Everything I have read today feels like a manipulation of the facts to the ends of the few, be they right of left in ideal. It would be pleasant to read articles where political policy was based on facts. I rarely enjoy such an article. It is always the class system polarising the conversation for the readers viewpoint. The class system is maintained by those who wish to end it as much as those who have the fortune/fate to have been born with a silver spoon in their mouth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by dvavasour</title>
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		<dc:creator>dvavasour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I didn&#039;t come across this sort of &quot;analysis&quot; in my day job. The saddest thing is that the people who produce this sort of garbage believe it&#039;s trenchant and insightful. You or I would write this as a spoof, sprinkling it with buzzword fairydust: they genuinely believe that &quot;leveraging knowledge&quot; is both new and a silver bullet.

The real scandal of the SPADs is not the cost or the misconduct, but their gullibility to this sort of tripe.

OTOH, perhaps I should set up a government workwear supplier using new smart fabrics whose opaqueness is regulated in proportion to the intelligence of the beholder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I didn&#8217;t come across this sort of &#8220;analysis&#8221; in my day job. The saddest thing is that the people who produce this sort of garbage believe it&#8217;s trenchant and insightful. You or I would write this as a spoof, sprinkling it with buzzword fairydust: they genuinely believe that &#8220;leveraging knowledge&#8221; is both new and a silver bullet.</p>
<p>The real scandal of the SPADs is not the cost or the misconduct, but their gullibility to this sort of tripe.</p>
<p>OTOH, perhaps I should set up a government workwear supplier using new smart fabrics whose opaqueness is regulated in proportion to the intelligence of the beholder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by dkoetsier</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2012/04/is-this-the-worst-government-statistic-ever-created/comment-page-1/#comment-40006</link>
		<dc:creator>dkoetsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this looks like expectation bias. If you anecdotally believe that local governments are inefficient you are willing to accept whatever Opera Solutions is singing about.

BTW, it is possible to use the word leverage and still not be wrong - I saw it once... OK I hear about it... OK I think it might be possible... no, your right, they&#039;re dolts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this looks like expectation bias. If you anecdotally believe that local governments are inefficient you are willing to accept whatever Opera Solutions is singing about.</p>
<p>BTW, it is possible to use the word leverage and still not be wrong &#8211; I saw it once&#8230; OK I hear about it&#8230; OK I think it might be possible&#8230; no, your right, they&#8217;re dolts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Great piece in .net magazine about nerdydaytrips.com by LeceaHuch</title>
		<link>http://www.badscience.net/2011/10/great-piece-in-net-magazine-about-nerdydaytrips-com/comment-page-1/#comment-40005</link>
		<dc:creator>LeceaHuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples &amp; Planets, :-)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by matt59</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They admit that their data is bollocks in the following paragraph:

/*
Lack of Data

Although local government spend information is now being published, there are, as yet, few mechanisms to consolidate and compare spend data within organisations and across them. Without detailed comparable analyses, opportunities for spend leverage cannot be identified, proven, or acted upon.
*/

i think they may have failed to indentify and prove opportunities for spend leverage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They admit that their data is bollocks in the following paragraph:</p>
<p>/*<br />
Lack of Data</p>
<p>Although local government spend information is now being published, there are, as yet, few mechanisms to consolidate and compare spend data within organisations and across them. Without detailed comparable analyses, opportunities for spend leverage cannot be identified, proven, or acted upon.<br />
*/</p>
<p>i think they may have failed to indentify and prove opportunities for spend leverage</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by stinkychemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>stinkychemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just naturally suspicious of anything that uses &quot;leverage&quot; as a verb.  It usually indicates the worst kind of idiot advising the most gullible.

Sadly, I have no empirical evidence to back this up, only skepticism, supposition and hearsay.  This opinion is therefore as valid as anything in the &quot;Opera Solutions white paper.&quot;  

Please submit my payment immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just naturally suspicious of anything that uses &#8220;leverage&#8221; as a verb.  It usually indicates the worst kind of idiot advising the most gullible.</p>
<p>Sadly, I have no empirical evidence to back this up, only skepticism, supposition and hearsay.  This opinion is therefore as valid as anything in the &#8220;Opera Solutions white paper.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Please submit my payment immediately.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by AdamJacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdamJacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgy statistics indeed, but the headline conclusion that local government wastes a lot of money seems reasonable, and biases in the estimate could easily go in either direction.

The figures presumably assume that local government savings can only be made by doing the things local government already does more cheaply. But what if it stopped doing some things altogether? I suspect there are quite large parts of local government activities that it doesn&#039;t really need to do at all. Would the world really come to an end if we were no longer able to call on the services of an Equality and Community Cohesion Officer from our local council when we felt the need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy statistics indeed, but the headline conclusion that local government wastes a lot of money seems reasonable, and biases in the estimate could easily go in either direction.</p>
<p>The figures presumably assume that local government savings can only be made by doing the things local government already does more cheaply. But what if it stopped doing some things altogether? I suspect there are quite large parts of local government activities that it doesn&#8217;t really need to do at all. Would the world really come to an end if we were no longer able to call on the services of an Equality and Community Cohesion Officer from our local council when we felt the need?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is this the worst government statistic ever created? by MadPierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadPierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, this is typical of the calibre of consultants who ply thier trade to the Public Sector.

I once managed a council&#039;s procurement department and we moved all of our mobile phones onto the &#039;government contract&#039;, in about 2000.  This was a centrally negotiated contract, organised by the government, and we saved a packet going there - probably around 20%.  

The government contract had, IIRC, price breaks in place, so everyone&#039;s costs would fall at 1m users and so on - this is much greater buying power than you get on price comparison sites, and there was no middle man.

I still work for a council and, as far as I now, all councils get their mobiles via the government contract, at the same rate as every government department, and have been doing so for a decade or more.

I shopped around for my personal phone contract last year and could get something approaching as cheap, but certainly not cheaper.

Generally, council staff need a phone to be contactable for short conversations, so inclusive minutes and texts don&#039;t have much value. The big savings can be made on discounted monthly rental, low cost of entry level phone handsets and reasonable costs/minute for airtime.

If the government are stupid enough to think this report has any credibility then they need to take their procurement people to task, because the government let the contract that most/all councils use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, this is typical of the calibre of consultants who ply thier trade to the Public Sector.</p>
<p>I once managed a council&#8217;s procurement department and we moved all of our mobile phones onto the &#8216;government contract&#8217;, in about 2000.  This was a centrally negotiated contract, organised by the government, and we saved a packet going there &#8211; probably around 20%.  </p>
<p>The government contract had, IIRC, price breaks in place, so everyone&#8217;s costs would fall at 1m users and so on &#8211; this is much greater buying power than you get on price comparison sites, and there was no middle man.</p>
<p>I still work for a council and, as far as I now, all councils get their mobiles via the government contract, at the same rate as every government department, and have been doing so for a decade or more.</p>
<p>I shopped around for my personal phone contract last year and could get something approaching as cheap, but certainly not cheaper.</p>
<p>Generally, council staff need a phone to be contactable for short conversations, so inclusive minutes and texts don&#8217;t have much value. The big savings can be made on discounted monthly rental, low cost of entry level phone handsets and reasonable costs/minute for airtime.</p>
<p>If the government are stupid enough to think this report has any credibility then they need to take their procurement people to task, because the government let the contract that most/all councils use.</p>
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		<dc:creator>pauldwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAH INSIGHT CUBE™

LET ME SHOW YOU IT</description>
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<p>LET ME SHOW YOU IT</p>
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		<link>http://www.badscience.net/about-dr-ben-goldacre/comment-page-3/#comment-39997</link>
		<dc:creator>I Can Engage In A Flawed Debate About Climate Change &#171; Graham Readfearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 02:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] science writer and academic Ben Goldacre would rather slam his “cock in a door” than engage in a phony debate with climate change [...]</description>
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