This is possibly the most boring thing I’ve ever written in the Guardian, but I have been genuinely weirded out by the number of people inviting me to be a naysayer on the aporkalypse. I’m not, it’s a genuine risk. I ought to add that most of the people who rang, when I explained my position, invited me on anyway, but I’m a bit busy with other stuff, and more importantly (a) I’m not an infectious diseases epidemiologist, and (b) the world doesn’t need another arbitrary pundit to say “it’s a bit of a risk, yes”. [Oh incidentally comments on the site might take a while to appear since alexlomas has activated wp-cache after boingboing very excitingly linked the new Rath chapter.]
Ben Goldacre
guardian.co.uk
Wednesday 29 April 2009 18.30 BST
First it was the emails, and the tweets. This is all nonsense about the aporkalypse, surely? Just like with Sars, and bird flu, and MMR, is this all hype? The answer is no, but more interesting is this: for so many people, their very first assumption on the story is that the media are lying. It is the story of the boy who cried wolf.
We are poorly equipped to think around issues involving risk, and infectious diseases epidemiology is a tricky business: the error margins on the models are wide, and it’s extremely hard to make clear predictions.
Here’s an example. In Glasgow in the 1980s, less than 5% of injecting drug users were HIV positive. In Edinburgh at the same time, it was almost 50%, even though these two places are only an hour apart by train. Lots of people have got theories about why there should have been such a huge difference in the numbers of people infected, and there’s no doubt that it’s fun to try and come up with a plausible post hoc rationale. But you certainly wouldn’t have predicted it.
Maybe some bloke with HIV got off the train at Edinburgh station instead of Glasgow on a whim, some fateful day in the early 1980s.
Maybe there was a different culture among heroin users, or services.
Nobody really knows.
We face the same problem with swine flu. All people have done is raise the possibility of things really kicking off, and they are right to do so, but we don’t have brilliantly accurate information. Someone has said that up to 40% of the world could be infected. Is that scaremongering? Well it’s high, and I’m sure it’s a bit of a guess, but maybe up to 40% could be. Annoying, isn’t it, not to know.
Someone has said 120 million could die. Well I suppose they could: I’m sure it was done on the back of an envelope, by guessing how many would be infected, and what proportion would die, but I don’t think anyone’s pretending otherwise.
You could no more predict what will happen here than you could have predicted the enormous disparity in HIV prevalence between Glasgow and Edinburgh. Everyone is just saying: we don’t know, it could be bad, and the newspapers are reporting that. Sure there’s a bit of vaudeville in the headlines, but they’re not saying things that are wrong, and do you really know actual, real people, normally pretty solid, who are suddenly now panicking?
By Tuesday, pundit-seekers from the media were suddenly contacting me, a massive nobody, to say that swine flu is all nonsense and hype, like some kind of blind, automated naysaying device. “Will you come and talk about the media overhyping swine flu?” asked Case Notes on Radio 4. No. “We need someone to say it’s all been overhyped,” said BBC Wales.
I assumed they were adhering, robotically, to the “balance” template, but no: he kept at it, even when I protested and explained. “Yeah, but you know, it could be like Sars and bird flu, they didn’t materialise, they were hype.” Simon Jenkins suggested the same thing. It’s not true, I said. They were risks, risks that didn’t materialise, but they were still risks. That’s what a risk is. I’ve never been hit by a car, but it’s not idiotic to think about it. Simon Jenkins won’t be right if nobody dies, he’ll be lucky, like the rest of us. Do people think this flappily in casinos? The terrible truth is yes.
In the time that I have been writing this piece – no embellishment – I’ve had similar calls off This Week at the BBC (“Is the coverage misleading?”), Al-Jazeera English (“We wanted to talk to someone on the other side, you know, challenging the fear factor”), the Richard Bacon Show on Five Live (“Is it another media scare like Sars and bird flu?”) and many more.
I’m not showing off. I know I’m a D-list public intellectual, but I just think it’s interesting: because not only have the public lost all faith in the media; not only do so many people assume, now, that they are being misled; but more than that, the media themselves have lost all confidence in their own ability to give us the facts.
jodyaberdein said,
May 3, 2009 at 7:45 am
“Red Leader, This is Gold Leader. We’re starting our attack run.”
CampFreddie said,
May 5, 2009 at 1:03 pm
“Stay on target”
AntibodyBoy said,
May 5, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Wow, small world, I went to school with Alex Lomas! Didn’t know he’d got married; I’m fairly sure I know his husband, I’d swear he demonstrated on my undergrad at IC 10 years ago…
AntibodyBoy said,
May 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm
…hmmm, come to think of it, I also fairly sure you used to work for arms dealers (BAE systems) didn’t you? Is doing BS your atonement? 😉
DeeTee said,
May 5, 2009 at 11:34 pm
@Ben: “Maybe some bloke with HIV got off the train at Edinburgh station instead of Glasgow on a whim, some fateful day in the early 1980s.
Maybe there was a different culture among heroin users, or services.
Nobody really knows [why HIV was more prevalent in Edinburgh].”
Yes, people do know, or at least have workable, plausible hypotheses with considerable evidence that explains why.
In Glasgow, drug users tended to inhabit a subculture where citric acid (jif) was used to dissolve the heroin preinjection. This has been shown to inactivate HIV in vitro. Edinburgh drug users never really caught onto this technique.
One thing Edinburgh drug users did was to frequent “shooting galleries”, sites where they could go to to obtain drugs and inject them at the same time on site. Reason was the Lothian and Borders Police in the early 1980s used to interpret the drug legislation in a particular way – if you were caught in posesion of drug paraphernalia you could be charged. (This never happened in Glasgow). To overcome this inconvenience, they would go along to a shooting gallery site, obtain their smack, borrow the equipment from the dealer, inject, then go away. No drugs or equipment in their possesion; no chance of the Polis coming down on them. Result: Multiple shared injecting equipment, high prevalence of blood borne viruses like HIV, Hep B and C.
DeeTee said,
May 5, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Oh, and another thing… HIV prevalence was not 50% in Edinburgh drug users. This figure was obtained from screening of drug users in the Muirhouse estate who had presented to their GP with Hepatitis B.
This is a bit like saying because 20% patients with chlamydia also have HPV infection, 20% of the general population do.
Massive selection bias issue here, Ben.
True seroprevalence was more like 15% in Edinburgh drug users, if I recall.
DeeTee said,
May 5, 2009 at 11:43 pm
So you had a call from Richard Bacon? Can I claim a Bacon number of 2 then?
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June 4, 2009 at 7:01 am
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pb said,
October 20, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Ben,
I’m hoping this will be a bit like calling International Rescue. Just leave a message and hope you’ll receive it.
I’ve tried to send the following link via email but have snags a my end.
This is doing the rounds of service websites and is provoking much comment.
My own comments are under the screen name Peebs.
www.romft.co.uk/smf1/index.php?topic=10538.0
I would be grateful if you would have a look and comment.
Apologies for the sometimes profane language and obscure naval slang.
Peebs
damat101 said,
December 2, 2009 at 11:12 am
Hi Ben and thanks for the good job.
To avoid play the “naysayr” of apocalypse for the media but could you please any insights on the proccedure that Novartis -if I’m right- followed during the assesment of their swine flue vaccine? Or maybe resources on other reliable analyses in order to make an informed desision?
Thanks.
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